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    Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 3 Aug 2020

    Jon Pretty Retweeted Raul Raja

    This is absolutely NOT what the Scala community is. I truly believe it to be an active, vibrant, progressive, tolerant and welcoming community, with thousands of developers demonstrating their willingness to share ideas and help people. But sometimes they passionately disagree.https://twitter.com/raulraja/status/1290298360331563008 …

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    Raul Raja @raulraja
    Replying to @raulraja @propensive and 4 others
    We are the community where abusers come to camp. We are all complicit of this nonsense. I stop here.
    9:31 AM - 3 Aug 2020
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      1. Peter Perhac‏ @PeterPerhac 3 Aug 2020
        Replying to @propensive

        in my experience, Scala community is the best. Yes; there are drama queens, but oh well :-) at least there's some excitement from time to time

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      1. Luka Jacobowitz  🏳️‍🌈‏ @LukaJacobowitz 3 Aug 2020
        Replying to @propensive

        It can be that but still allow abusers, one good thing doesn't cancel out the bad

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      2. Snowflake, Esq.‏ @pvillega 3 Aug 2020
        Replying to @propensive

        Can I ask you to check this link? https://intenseminimalism.com/2020/the-impact-of-toxic-influencers-on-communities/ … I can't impose on your time, and you know I am partial, but I feel that it describes our current situation quite well. And maybe on why what you propose, while understandable and sensible, won't work

        15 replies 16 retweets 77 likes
      3. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 3 Aug 2020
        Replying to @pvillega

        I shall read it, thank you.

        0 replies 0 retweets 8 likes
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      1.  🔴 🔴 🔴 Martin‏ @martinpallmann 3 Aug 2020
        Replying to @propensive

        I have to agree. I met some of the nicest people in the community.

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      2. Raul Raja‏ @raulraja 3 Aug 2020
        Replying to @propensive

        You and I had been permitting that abuse Jon, by trying to mediate for someone that is manipulating you and taunting everyone in the community. It's crystal clear to me know, We've been played.

        2 replies 0 retweets 15 likes
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      1. Markus Eisele‏Verified account @myfear 3 Aug 2020
        Replying to @propensive

        Unfortunately the damage done is highly visible and what's perceived of _the_ community externally isn't easy to change. I for sure met some of the brightest and friendliest minds there. There's so much history in the way. I wish the community all luck they need.

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      2. Nicolas Rinaudo‏ @NicolasRinaudo 3 Aug 2020
        Replying to @propensive

        Mmm... “passionately disagree” sounds like disagreement on technical issues. Today seems more on whether or not crapping on somebody else’s work for self promotion is acceptable, which, while a reasonable debate, is far less clean than you make it out to be.

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      3. Nicolas Rinaudo‏ @NicolasRinaudo 3 Aug 2020
        Replying to @NicolasRinaudo @propensive

        I’m being very careful not to err on one side or the other here. But let’s call a cat a cat. We’re debating whether insulting someone’s work is ok. I’m guilty of that - I will make fun of scalaz if I feel it’ll get me a few cheap laughs.

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