I think this is the crucial bit that upsets people (including myself) the most: just promote your stuff without declaring everything else as inferior and obsolete. This is the sane behavior most people in the Scala community already have and the few notable exceptions stand out.
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It's what I try to do, but I also know it's extremely hard to get traction for a technically better solution when there's an incumbent. I have been particularly aware of this with trying to promote Magnolia "agnostically" when everyone else's frame of reference is Shapeless...
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Replying to @propensive @gabro27 and
I understand the difficulty, but I think the point is: if you take the easy way out to crap on everybody else’s work to promote your own, you shouldn’t be surprised when everybody else gets upset. It is, after all, part of the process.
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Replying to @NicolasRinaudo @gabro27 and
Yes, I am not suprised that people get upset about things they've devoted time and effort to. But the innocent bystanders, would benefit much more from some magnanimity on both sides. But people are inherently selfish. I know I am.
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Replying to @propensive @gabro27 and
It could be argued that this sort of public meltdown is good. We’re a community that tolerates this kind of behaviour (it does happen every few months). Let’s acknowledge it, so that newcomers know what they’re getting into. Or fix it. But not just... sort of hide it.
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Replying to @NicolasRinaudo @propensive and
In short: either it’s ok, and we stop making a fuss. Or it’s not, and we fix it. But it’s not both, and straddling that line is counterproductive, regardless of your personal preference.
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Replying to @NicolasRinaudo @gabro27 and
Yes, but we're not one individual person with a consistent mind. And any solution where "we just need to agree" is more or less doomed. I've given up trying to find that, and now I'm just trying to encourage people to be more tolerant of other people's different approaches.
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Replying to @propensive @NicolasRinaudo and
Communities are made of different people with different mindsets and yet they can work together. Even within the same community, multiple competing libraries can exist. Let's not use what's happening as a general rule to show that people can't work together. That's not the case.
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Replying to @mapastr @NicolasRinaudo and
Most people work very well together, I agree. Which makes it all the more frustrating: we have more in common than we have separating us. I just meant to disagree with Nicholas's point that "it can't be both": it is both, and we need to find a way to work with it being both.
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Replying to @propensive @mapastr and
See, I’m being charitable: I’m not taking offense at your purposeful and offensive misspelling of my name.
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Replying to @NicolasRinaudo @mapastr and
Whoops! In my defense, that was 100% autocorrect...
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