Jon Pretty

This one is easyhttps://twitter.com/travisbrown/status/1286644570252554241 …

Hi @propensive, I’m seriously interested in understanding how you’re unable to recognize that speech like Yarvin’s led to the atrocities you rightly condemn in your thread

As far as I can tell from the quotes I've seen here, Yarvin speaks a load of nonsense which appears to be a weird racist fantasy and is difficult to take seriously. It is fundamentally unpersuasive.

The Nazis did not gain power (by democracy) by promoting the atrocities they were to commit ten years later, because this was not a persuasive argument then. Instead, they enacted propaganda campaigns which shifted public opinion towards enabling them.

And that is the real danger to societies right now, and all the attention on Yarvin or John de Goes takes attention away from the slow but steady, incremental normalization of unpleasant ideas promoted by political parties in almost every developed country right now.

IMHO, this is where we would committing a huge mistake : the fight against racism, misogyny, etc... won't be won by attacking heads of political parties head on. Recent years have shown that it doesn't work well : there are enough supporters so that it stays alive.

However, fighting everyday acts of racism, misogyny, etc... or support of it, no matter the level and visibility of the one doing it, will slowly move these ideas where they belong : in the trash. And when there is no longer people listening those ideas, the fight is "won".