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    1. Ro-metal‏ @RosaCtrl 24 Jul 2020

      Ro-metal Retweeted Travis Brown

      This one is easyhttps://twitter.com/travisbrown/status/1286644570252554241 …

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      Travis Brown @travisbrown
      Replying to @travisbrown @propensive
      Yes or no question, @propensive: do you agree with De Goes that the author of this passage isn’t a white supremacist, and that this isn’t hate speech? pic.twitter.com/VPSbXHpsXT
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    2. Travis Brown‏ @travisbrown 24 Jul 2020
      Replying to @RosaCtrl

      “Yes or no” was too hard.pic.twitter.com/AXaXS75xD5

      Jon Pretty
      7 replies 4 retweets 41 likes
    3. P. Oscar Boykin‏ @posco 24 Jul 2020
      Replying to @travisbrown @RosaCtrl @propensive

      It’s amazing he had time for that whole thread but not a simple “yes of course that quote is racist and is clear white supremacy”

      2 replies 2 retweets 36 likes
    4. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 27 Jul 2020
      Replying to @posco @travisbrown @RosaCtrl

      Yes, of course that quote is racist, and is clear white supremacy. For what it's worth, I didn't really have time to answer a demand from Travis, alongside rude private messages, on a Friday afternoon before a weekend away without a reliable internet connection.

      2 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
    5. Travis Brown‏ @travisbrown 27 Jul 2020
      Replying to @propensive @posco @RosaCtrl

      So you agree that when De Goes wrote "[Yarvin] has never written any hate speech" and "He is not a white supremacist", he was defending a white supremacist? Because that's literally what he is threatening to sue me for writing.

      1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
      Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 27 Jul 2020
      Replying to @travisbrown @posco @RosaCtrl

      I haven't seen anything which suggests John knew about it. The two quotes were several years apart, and I don't know how reasonable it is to expect someone to know what Yarvin wrote. I do, at least, think John should have had a better idea before claiming that.

      1:11 AM - 27 Jul 2020
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        1. Travis Brown‏ @travisbrown 27 Jul 2020
          Replying to @propensive @posco @RosaCtrl

          I have a March 2016 thread with emails between De Goes and the Typelevel admins (this was before I quit) where similar passages are directly quoted, and pages including that quote are linked. I'm happy to add these emails to the documentation if that'd help.

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        2. s2w - #BLM‏ @StewOConnor 27 Jul 2020
          Replying to @propensive @travisbrown and

          we made SURE he know how racist this guy was. and This was on the heel of the when strangeloop had already, of course, publicly went through this... The thing that kills me is that he polled the URM scheduled speakers to see if they felt uncomfortable with Yarvin Speaking

          2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
        3. s2w - #BLM‏ @StewOConnor 27 Jul 2020
          Replying to @StewOConnor @propensive and

          I was a scheduled speaker, but I wasn't polled as I'm not an URM. I talked to multiple speakers that were polled. All of the ones I spoke to said that they answered that having moldbug speak made them feel uncomfortable

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        2. Gideon de Kok‏ @gideondk 27 Jul 2020
          Replying to @propensive @travisbrown and

          With all due respect, The Strange Loop drama happened in June 2015. If you would only have typed his name on Google at the time of the 2016 invite, you would have been bombarded by things like this: https://slate.com/technology/2015/06/curtis-yarvin-booted-from-strange-loop-its-a-big-big-problem.html … Impossible to throw a "haben es nicht gewußt” card here.

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        3. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 27 Jul 2020
          Replying to @gideondk @travisbrown and

          It was an honest "not sure" rather than "surely not". You would be reasonable to request an answer to this.

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        2. Daniel Spiewak‏ @djspiewak 27 Jul 2020
          Replying to @propensive @travisbrown and

          As someone who spent a considerable amount of time with John during the period of time in question I can attest the following: 1) John was not aware of Yarvin before being made aware (after the blind acceptance) 2) Once made aware, he fully researched and did find those passages

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
        3. Daniel Spiewak‏ @djspiewak 27 Jul 2020
          Replying to @djspiewak @propensive and

          The thread with Typelevel is more direct physical evidence of what I'm saying, but I just wanted to address your "lack of evidence" point a little more immediately. He didn't know of Yarvin before the acceptance. *After* the acceptance, he was fully and completely informed.

          0 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
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        1. Hoydenne‏ @iridienne 27 Jul 2020
          Replying to @propensive @travisbrown and

          I can attest that i *personally* made JdG aware of several quotes of that nature by Yarvin, at the time of the LC cobtroversy. He knew.

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