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    1. Zanzi‏ @tangled_zans 27 Jun 2020

      is there something like "complex-systems criticism of utilitarianism"? I want to counter reductionist thinking of the form "we should put all our money into buying more malaria nets rather than justice reform because malaria nets save more lives per dollar".

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    2. Zanzi‏ @tangled_zans 27 Jun 2020

      My argument is that creating a more equal society leads to more non-white people with access to education and opportunities to innovate, but simply sending more malaria nets to Africa without infrastructure change will just have people dying from other preventable diseases.

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    3. Zanzi‏ @tangled_zans 27 Jun 2020

      This isn't to criticise anti-malaria efforts, but to respond to the ideology of 'effective altruistm' which claims that it's "doing the most good" while mostly focusing on shallow metrics that ignore deeper structural problems in society.

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    4. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 27 Jun 2020
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      But isn't this just making an argument to continue with utilitarianism, while making deeper predictions about the likely impact of either course of action? I.e. the problem is the shallow metrics, not the utilitarianism.

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    5. Zanzi‏ @tangled_zans 27 Jun 2020
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      This is why I distinguish "utilitarianism" - the specific informal methodology loosely based on the von neumann axioms, from "consequentialism" which is the broader philosophical tradition in which utilitarianism is situated.

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      Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 27 Jun 2020
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      I hadn't heard of consequentialism before, but I would be broadly supportive of that sort of analysis. It gets problematic when an unequal burden lands on one group in the short ("predictable") term for a greater benefit in the long ("speculative") term.

      2:04 PM - 27 Jun 2020 from Krakow, Poland
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        1. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 27 Jun 2020
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          ... and I'm not sure of ethical ways to resolve that.

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