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    1. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 11 Jun 2020
      Replying to @propensive @tangled_zans and

      ...goes on certain people, and it actually distracts from more egregious examples in broader definitions of community and society. I'm certainly privileged to have spent long enough with Paul and others to know them well enough to make these judgements, though not everyone has.

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    2. Zanzi‏ @tangled_zans 11 Jun 2020
      Replying to @propensive @travisbrown and

      I see your point about undue attention to individuals. Honestly, a part of me feels weird that I'm still talking about LC several years past the incident. But to me, it's not about a single person, but figuring out what general principle would prevent such incidents in the future

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    3. Zanzi‏ @tangled_zans 11 Jun 2020
      Replying to @tangled_zans @propensive and

      Imo what LC did was break an implicit assumption of shared values - part of the community expected that a CoC would be interpreted in a way that would preclude Moldbug, and another part expected the reverse.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    4. Zanzi‏ @tangled_zans 11 Jun 2020
      Replying to @tangled_zans @propensive and

      And so what we've seen is that one side pushed for more rigorous application of 'inclusive' principles, and the other called it a witch hunt and reverse-engineered a CoC that would justify their decisions. But the key is the loss of both side's trust in each other

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    5. Boltzmann Brain Think Tank‏ @PLT_cheater 15 Jun 2020
      Replying to @tangled_zans @propensive and

      And very well the trust was lost, because why on earth would I ever trust a nazi or anyone who defends a nazi? Well done that they outed themselves. And not to fail to address people in the conversation, well done Jon in specific!

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    6. drop‏ @dropmonad 16 Jun 2020
      Replying to @PLT_cheater @tangled_zans and

      Please don't do this. Have a little empathy and consider the effects of your accusations, as well the responsibility you shoulder in making them.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    7. Boltzmann Brain Think Tank‏ @PLT_cheater 16 Jun 2020
      Replying to @dropmonad @tangled_zans and

      Clearly we're talking about cases where a breathing thinking person looked at evidence and decided for themselves they're dealing with scum. You seem to think everyone jumps at the opportunity like some mindless automaton. That's disingenuous.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    8. drop‏ @dropmonad 16 Jun 2020
      Replying to @PLT_cheater @tangled_zans and

      You have accused others of being scum, nazis, and nazi defenders. I'm sure you agree that those are pretty serious accusations with specific meanings, and that they should not be made casually or without justification. Thinking, breathing people especially.

      2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    9. drop‏ @dropmonad 17 Jun 2020
      Replying to @dropmonad @PLT_cheater and

      I asked @PLT_cheater to elaborate in a different thread but unfortunately got blocked. That is their right, but what should you make of someone casually throwing around career-destroying accusations without any intent to support them with evidence or even clarification?pic.twitter.com/40VAQpQjxK

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    10. drop‏ @dropmonad 17 Jun 2020
      Replying to @dropmonad @PLT_cheater and

      More generally, this has been my experience with everyone involved in this particular clique of bullies. Strong accusations justified by pattern matching and vague appeals to a historical pattern of behavior. Requesting clarification gets you blocked and your replies hidden.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 17 Jun 2020
      Replying to @dropmonad @PLT_cheater and

      I don't think it's worth your time.

      1:18 AM - 17 Jun 2020 from Krakow, Poland
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