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Supporting Scala through professional training and open-source software. Responsible for Magnolia, Fury, Scala World and Functional Africa.

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    1. Travis Brown‏ @travisbrown 11 Jun 2020
      Replying to @bkmlep @posco and

      I don't think that's an "explanation", though, in any justifying sense. He's an adult with a central place in the community (if only because of his scalac contributions), and I know specific, real people who have left or avoided the community because of this kind of behavior.

      1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
    2. Emily Pillmore‏ @bkmlep 11 Jun 2020
      Replying to @travisbrown @posco and

      Emily Pillmore Retweeted Emily Pillmore

      I'm not justifying anything, just offering a view that I also happen to disagree with. See: https://twitter.com/pitopos/status/1271139084413648896 … I think it's manipulative, emotionally stunted, and not at all productive. I don't know how to be more clear than that that it's not okay.

      Emily Pillmore added,

      Emily Pillmore @bkmlep
      Replying to @posco @runT1ME @japgolly
      I was just typing the same thing LOL I think it's immature and manipulative to engage in that kind of rhetoric, and totally unacceptable at a time when people are constantly dog-whistling and race-baiting, and he really needs to stop.
      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    3. Emily Pillmore‏ @bkmlep 11 Jun 2020
      Replying to @bkmlep @travisbrown and

      This conversation tree is also getting very complicated. I'm happy to continue in a separate one.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. Travis Brown‏ @travisbrown 11 Jun 2020
      Replying to @bkmlep @posco and

      In any case here's the link for the brain size tweets. I know people who are likely to have more comprehensive lists of links like this—I'll ask around. In the meantime if you want to defend his shit any more please untag me.http://web.archive.org/web/20180419191607/https:/twitter.com/contrarivariant/status/987047197605748736 …

      3 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
    5. Emily Pillmore‏ @bkmlep 11 Jun 2020
      Replying to @travisbrown @posco and

      Tech is hard enough without being accused of defending racists and sexists. I experience it every day. You don't have to level that shit against me for asking, and I don't have the privilege of free time to spend on this. So please, if there is background, I'd like to see it.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    6. Travis Brown‏ @travisbrown 11 Jun 2020
      Replying to @bkmlep @posco and

      What “background” do you mean? I’ve posted the screenshots and links I have at hand, which are fairly self-contained and explanatory, and I’ve said I’ll ask around for more. Also sure, maybe “defend” isn’t the right word, I should have said “minimize” or “downplay”, I guess.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    7. Emily Pillmore‏ @bkmlep 11 Jun 2020
      Replying to @travisbrown @posco and

      And I agree with you on the sexism part - it's pretty clear. But the racism part I don't see how to make the leaps you're making. There must be some background I'm missing. I'm not minimizing the harm paulp's comments cause.

      2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    8. Zanzi‏ @tangled_zans 11 Jun 2020
      Replying to @bkmlep @travisbrown and

      @pitopos I've never heard of Paul until now, and I can't do a proper check of his account since he deleted it, but just that one tweet that Travis posted made me go YIKES. The rabbit hole you're looking for will open by the keyword "Human Biodiversity"pic.twitter.com/41Vj55MV6r

      2 replies 1 retweet 8 likes
    9. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 11 Jun 2020
      Replying to @tangled_zans @travisbrown and

      I've been friend of Paul's for several years, and I will make the assertion that he's not racist. If I thought he were, I wouldn't entertain a continued friendship with him. I will gladly put up with him being obnoxious (to me, at least) but not racist.

      2 replies 0 retweets 8 likes
    10. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 11 Jun 2020
      Replying to @propensive @tangled_zans and

      I will also assert that he can be his own worst enemy in trusting that "facts speak for themselves". I've spoken to him specifically about that tweet, because it leans far too heavily either on context which most people don't have, or some amount of charity.

      1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
      Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 11 Jun 2020
      Replying to @propensive @tangled_zans and

      I know that his issue is with his perception of Google's censorship. He has ranted to me ad nauseum about it. He's made it very clear to me that he has zero interest in the actual search query, and 100% interest in illustrating Google's manipulation of search results.

      3:54 PM - 11 Jun 2020
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      • Valthor Vincent Marquez Paolo G. Giarrusso Dimitar Georgiev Pedro Furlanetto Emily Pillmore Zanzi
      1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
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        2. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 11 Jun 2020
          Replying to @propensive @tangled_zans and

          FWIW, I don't think you're wrong to be disturbed by the tweet. It's ambiguous, and unnecessarily so. Better examples of search manipulation which don't show Google doing something actually *good* were probably available, and Paul's basically an idiot for choosing that one.

          1 reply 0 retweets 9 likes
        3. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 11 Jun 2020
          Replying to @propensive @tangled_zans and

          I also share @runT1ME's concern about offering any sort of defense to a tweet like that, and putting my own credibility on the line in the process. But as I have chosen to remain friends with Paul, I also can't let it go unanswered.

          1 reply 0 retweets 8 likes
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