I don't see a meaningful difference between inviting a racist speaker and not rescinding that invitation once you become aware they are racist. Your wording suggests that LC was never aware of who moldbug was, which is false.
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Maybe there's not a huge meaningful difference, but the problem is this moral equivalence gets applied more than once. Is there a meaningful difference between inviting one racist speaker and inviting five?
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Is there a difference between a conference with five racist speakers, and a racist conference? Is there a difference between an organiser of a racist conference and a racist organiser of a conference? IS there a difference between a racist organiser and a nazi?
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This sort of repeated application of moral equivalence turns a supposedly-meaningless difference into something significant, and the greying of the lines between them serves nobody's interests. I want to stick to facts, and John did not invite any racist speaker to LambdaConf.
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he did not uninvite a racist speaker from lambdaconf. i have a problem with that.
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And I think the criticism stands on its own, without needing to deviate in its accuracy... That's my only point here. I could make a separate point that I agree it was a bad decision.
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In a judicial process, the accused should be judged on their crime. If they are a polite criminal or a rude criminal should make no difference. If people like them or dislike them should not impact their guilt or innocence.
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If we're talking about the number of justifications for punishment, judge by the incidents which meet your criminal standard. And certainly don't count dramas which are not even instigated by the accused. I say that because every drama can get blamed on John as a new offence.
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It's a bit of a stretch, because nothing here is simple, but for expedience, I'll just say "basically".
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