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    1. Timothy Gowers‏ @wtgowers 16 Mar 2020

      at least one of those pupils has coronavirus. The number of confirmed cases in Cambridgeshire was four yesterday. If the average time to get from infection to confirmation is a week, and the number of cases is doubling every two to three days, then 2/

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    2. Timothy Gowers‏ @wtgowers 16 Mar 2020

      that would suggest that the number of people now who have the virus and will in due course become confirmed cases is around 30 (with significant error bars, as 4 is such a small number). And since only a fraction of people who are infectious will become confirmed cases, 3/

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    3. Timothy Gowers‏ @wtgowers 16 Mar 2020

      the number of infectious people will be some multiple of that, which I'm going to have to guess at completely: let's say five times. So that makes 150 people in the whole county, which has a population of about 650,000. For convenience let's make that 130 people. 4/

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    4. Timothy Gowers‏ @wtgowers 16 Mar 2020

      Then the chances that any given person has it are about one in five thousand. So the chances that someone in the school is infectious are about one in 5000/250=20 -- but I stress the various uncertainties above. It's important to note that this probability is increasing ... 5/

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    5. Timothy Gowers‏ @wtgowers 16 Mar 2020

      rapidly -- in a couple of days it will probably be more like one in ten, and by the end of the week more like one in five, or it could already be that if my numbers were off. That's probably not enough for me to need to be too concerned about the safety of my own family, 6/

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    6. Timothy Gowers‏ @wtgowers 16 Mar 2020

      but looked at more collectively it is more of a problem. It means that larger schools will very likely be spreading the virus around by the end of the week if they stay open, and at least some smaller schools too, though maybe not all that much. 7/

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    7. Timothy Gowers‏ @wtgowers 16 Mar 2020

      I think it's safe to say that keeping schools open in Cambridgeshire next week would be a very bad idea. I'm uncomfortable about my children going to school this week, but next week I'll keep them at home whatever happens. 8/

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    8. Timothy Gowers‏ @wtgowers 16 Mar 2020

      Note that these calculations will vary from region to region, and may be wrong anyway, so don't try to draw any general conclusions from them: do your own calculations and draw conclusions from those. 9/

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    9. Timothy Gowers‏ @wtgowers 16 Mar 2020

      The number I'm most worried about was that wild guess that one in five people who get it will become confirmed cases. If the ratio is significantly smaller, then the probabilities become significantly bigger ... 10/10

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    10. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 16 Mar 2020
      Replying to @wtgowers

      I think you could appease some of the concern over the ratio of confirmed/unconfirmed cases by noting that many of the unconfirmed cases will be unconfirmed because they're not serious enough to be diagnosed.

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      Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 16 Mar 2020
      Replying to @propensive @wtgowers

      If the numbers are wrong by (unrealisticly) a factor of 100, that suggests both that the disease is more widespread that we thought, but also commensurately less severe. Still not much comfort for anyone in a high-risk group, of course...

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