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    Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 2 Jan 2020

    Every time I read this claim in the Gentoo Linux installation guide, I cringe: It's meant to make the process seem less scary, but it remains the case that a badly-configured kernel can leave you with an unbootable computer, while each iteration may take many minutes.pic.twitter.com/KF14tYJQK0

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      2. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 2 Jan 2020

        I've been building Linux kernels for 15 years (probably more than a hundred). And it's the most time-consuming and opaque part of the setup process. The likely consequence of this claim is that people reading it will feel worse when the inevitable failure get it working happens.

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      3. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 2 Jan 2020

        If something is difficult, like building a working Linux kernel, (or understanding type systems or distributed computing), then we should be proportionately frank about it. Making the dissenting claim bolder doesn't make it any less false. It's basically just "lying harder".

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      2. Vλadimir Λ‏ @vladimir_lu 2 Jan 2020
        Replying to @propensive

        I haven’t read this page in a looong time - are you contemplating Gentoo? 😄

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      3. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 2 Jan 2020
        Replying to @vladimir_lu

        I'm not contemplating learning anything else at this stage! I've been using it continuously for a long time now...

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      1. Mike Limansky‏ @mike_limansky 2 Jan 2020
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        It looks like they are going to provide precompiled kernels some day https://blogs.gentoo.org/mgorny/2019/12/19/a-distribution-kernel-for-gentoo/ …

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      1. schrepfler‏ @schrepfler 3 Jan 2020
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        I dropped it after Uni, could not afford wasting half of my time working on my computer compiling stuff. It was fun and educational though.

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      2. Steven H‏ @theexceptioncat 3 Jan 2020
        Replying to @propensive

        I found that going with the defaults and then being overly generous about what you enable was the most successful, but aggravating path.

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      3. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 4 Jan 2020
        Replying to @theexceptioncat

        I normally use the defaults, but if I have more time I tend to start from a more minimal configuration and add things when necessary.

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