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    1. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 18 Nov 2019

      I do think about it, though I have a much longer answer (which I should probably write about some time) which doesn't justify my carbon footprint so much as argue that it's not going to make a difference to the end-result... :(

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    3. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 19 Nov 2019

      Well, my argument was going to be that individual mindset doesn't work. It gives people an artificial sense of satisfaction that they've taken responsibility for themselves, and that that is somehow enough. But large-scale political change has the potential to make a difference.

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    5. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 19 Nov 2019

      You're already doing more than most people if you realise that stopping one other person taking a flight is exactly as good as stopping yourself taking it. I think most people feel a lot happier knowing that they've made the sacrifice than if someone else has.

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    6. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 19 Nov 2019
      Replying to @propensive @danbim @ArturGajowy

      Note that I've not done either of those things, so I have no moral high ground here...

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    7. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 19 Nov 2019
      Replying to @propensive @danbim @ArturGajowy

      But there's s further problem which is that choosing not to take a flight doesn't stop the plane, and doesn't cancel the route, and it needs a huge amount of amortization before any individuals' action actually reduces the number of planes in constant operation...

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    8. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 19 Nov 2019
      Replying to @propensive @danbim @ArturGajowy

      Maybe we could be satisfied knowing that the airlines are making smaller profits. But even that isn't a clearly-positive outcome: those airlines may keep older, more-polluting aircraft in operation for longer because they can't afford newer, cleaner jets...

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    9. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 19 Nov 2019
      Replying to @propensive @danbim @ArturGajowy

      And if you try to analyse the impact of individual responsibility on reducing emissions, it's really unclear what difference it makes at all, unless you have a massive shift in the behaviour of a lot of people.

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    10. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 19 Nov 2019
      Replying to @propensive @danbim @ArturGajowy

      We can hope for that, and I would support it, but I can't help but feel a little depressed that my own personal contributions to that goal would be effectively zero, and that we need a much more significant step-change. And the sooner we realise that, the better.

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      Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 19 Nov 2019
      Replying to @propensive @danbim @ArturGajowy

      I'm sorry if that sounds more like the "we're damned whatever we do" answer you didn't want, but I'm reasonably sure we're damned until things get so bad that it forces a more dramatic change in human behaviour.

      4:58 AM - 19 Nov 2019
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