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    1. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 7 Nov 2019

      Some contrarian advice for job candidates: don't try to improve your interview technique. If you're genuinely a good candidate, it shouldn't be in your interests to be hired by a company that would be easily fooled by anything so superficial as "good interview technique".

      13 replies 21 retweets 154 likes
    2. Dave Nicponski  ✍️‏ @virus_dave 7 Nov 2019
      Replying to @propensive

      Agreed, but this will come off as "white guy advice" If I can add anything I'll be: "Have confidence. You have value. Realize and express that."

      2 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
    3. Naftoli Gugenheim‏ @nafg613 7 Nov 2019
      Replying to @virus_dave @propensive

      That sounds racist

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    4. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 7 Nov 2019
      Replying to @nafg613 @virus_dave

      I think that if it refered to an historically-oppressed race instead, it might be. It's a significant difference.

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    5. Naftoli Gugenheim‏ @nafg613 7 Nov 2019
      Replying to @propensive @virus_dave

      I meant the opposite. Maybe I misunderstood but I thought he meant that your advice of being yourself might not work for non-white people

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    6. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 7 Nov 2019
      Replying to @nafg613 @virus_dave

      I think he's alluding to the privilege I, as a white man, have in being able to presume that an interviewer would judge me fairly. So I think he's saying both... ;) Though that does back up my original point: you probably don't want to get hired by a company which does that.

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    7. Naftoli Gugenheim‏ @nafg613 7 Nov 2019
      Replying to @propensive @virus_dave

      Exactly. Any company that's racist against blacks is not a company a black person would probably want to work for. But I don't know any such company, do you? IMO the premise of the "white privilege" lie is racist. I don't believe white privilege exists, systemically at least.

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    8. Naftoli Gugenheim‏ @nafg613 7 Nov 2019
      Replying to @nafg613 @propensive @virus_dave

      That's not to say racists don't exist. But the term "white privilege" makes it sound like they're everywhere and the system is run by them, and that's not true. Overstating a problem usually makes it harder to solve.

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      Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 7 Nov 2019
      Replying to @nafg613 @virus_dave

      "White privilege" is certainly an easy card to reach for (and has a further effect of antagonising the person is applied to, because they have no defense). But that doesn't mean it's a lie.

      11:21 PM - 7 Nov 2019
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        2. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 7 Nov 2019
          Replying to @propensive @nafg613 @virus_dave

          The reality is surely that society includes a mix of racists, unprejudiced folk, and others promoting affirmative action. All exist, so it makes it difficult to make claims about culture, society and the systems within in, as a unified whole.

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        3. Naftoli Gugenheim‏ @nafg613 7 Nov 2019
          Replying to @propensive @virus_dave

          Right, so it depends how you interpret the phrase, I'm arguing against what I think is the common meaning associated with it but if you interpret it less broadly then sure

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