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    Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 7 Nov 2019

    Some contrarian advice for job candidates: don't try to improve your interview technique. If you're genuinely a good candidate, it shouldn't be in your interests to be hired by a company that would be easily fooled by anything so superficial as "good interview technique".

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      2. Yannick Grenzinger‏ @ygrenzinger 7 Nov 2019
        Replying to @propensive

        Like any big name in the tech industry or all the shiny startup ? You should not read cracking the coding interview? 🤔

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      3. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 7 Nov 2019
        Replying to @ygrenzinger

        In general I'm saying, don't put a lot of effort into creating a façade, because if you're pretending to be something you're not, that's going to help neither you nor the company hiring you in the long run.

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      2. Dave Nicponski  ✍️‏ @virus_dave 7 Nov 2019
        Replying to @propensive

        Agreed, but this will come off as "white guy advice" If I can add anything I'll be: "Have confidence. You have value. Realize and express that."

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      3. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 7 Nov 2019
        Replying to @virus_dave

        "White guy advice" or maybe just privileged advice... that's fair. When you're starting out, it's natural to think, in the absence of lots of experience, that interview technique matters a lot... And unfortunately it does.

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      1. Cory Klein‏ @coryfklein 7 Nov 2019
        Replying to @propensive

        If your lack of interviewing skills gets in the way of showing your programming chops during interviews then you certainly should work on those skills.

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      1. David "Bear Feeder" Pollak 🐈‏ @dpp 7 Nov 2019
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        I had the same attitude when I chose not to do LSAT prep… I would recommend to my younger self to avail oneself of any advantage

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      1. Georgi Krastev‏ @Joro_Kr 8 Nov 2019
        Replying to @propensive

        I'd say recruiting in our industry is a mess and if you're not privileged enough to get word of mouth offers, you will unfortunately have to complete tasks and pass interviews that don't make any sense and try to guess the opinion of people sitting across you.

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      2. Mark Cannon‏ @markcannon5 8 Nov 2019
        Replying to @propensive

        Terrible advice. Saying that if a total stranger cannot see your brilliance at first glance in an interview setting then they are not worth working for is total rubbish.

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      3. Sinisa Louc‏ @sinisalouc 8 Nov 2019
        Replying to @markcannon5 @propensive

        I got it more as "you shouldn't have to worry about interviewing techniques bcs being a good engineer (including soft skills) should be enough". By interviewing techniques I mean stuff like shaping your sentences in a particular way etc. Maybe that's not what Jon meant though.

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      2. Garth Gilmour‏ @GarthGilmour 8 Nov 2019
        Replying to @propensive

        Interviewers are human and even good companies are succeptable to false negatives. Hence you can be a great candidate for a great company but still unable to send the right signals at interview. So get help.

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      3. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 8 Nov 2019
        Replying to @GarthGilmour

        I understand, but "sending the right signals" is exactly the sort of metainformation (albeit, abstract!) which makes it more likely that the hire would end up being more of a mismatch than if that metainformation were eliminated from the process.

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