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    1. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 9 Sep 2019

      Jon Pretty Retweeted Alan Johnson

      This is a very thoughtful and balanced commentary on recent events, and I think everyone should take heed of @AlanJay1's view of the situation, not least as he is a member of an underrepresented group within our community. His lack of conclusion seems fitting.https://twitter.com/AlanJay1/status/1170962788929245184 …

      Jon Pretty added,

      Alan Johnson @AlanJay1
      I'm not so sure the world needs another thread on the @skillsmatter, @typelevel, and @johndegoes situation, but you're going to get one anyway. /1
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      2 replies 3 retweets 27 likes
    2. Naftoli Gugenheim‏ @nafg613 9 Sep 2019
      Replying to @propensive @AlanJay1

      Uh his race makes his opinion more important how? I mean how is that not racist

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 9 Sep 2019
      Replying to @nafg613 @AlanJay1

      Because he has first-hand experiences which I'll never have, as a white man.

      1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
    4. Naftoli Gugenheim‏ @nafg613 9 Sep 2019
      Replying to @propensive @AlanJay1

      There are a lot of factors that go into what experiences one has besides the color of their skin. But what do experiences have to do with validity of an argument?

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 9 Sep 2019
      Replying to @nafg613 @AlanJay1

      Being able to verify first-hand the premises of the argument, rather than relying upon reports by others with that experience, or worse, others who don't.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    6. Naftoli Gugenheim‏ @nafg613 9 Sep 2019
      Replying to @propensive @AlanJay1

      That would be true, but what premise are you referring to?

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      Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 9 Sep 2019
      Replying to @nafg613 @AlanJay1

      Jon Pretty Retweeted Alan Johnson

      In this tweet, https://twitter.com/AlanJay1/status/1170962801176846337?s=19 … I trust that @AlanJay1 feels a sense of concern much more acutely than I do. I find his perspective valuable.

      Jon Pretty added,

      Alan Johnson @AlanJay1
      As a black American, I'm viscerally concerned with neofascism and the white backlash against a browning America and Europe. And I strive to be an ally to people who experience marginalization in areas where I have privilege. I am openly political. /4
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      9:06 AM - 9 Sep 2019 from Krakow, Poland
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        2. Naftoli Gugenheim‏ @nafg613 9 Sep 2019
          Replying to @propensive @AlanJay1

          Of course his perspective is valuable. But not because of the color of his skin! And that isn't a premise of his argument, it's his motivation. An argument doesn't stand or fall on its motivation but its validity.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 9 Sep 2019
          Replying to @nafg613 @AlanJay1

          I don't doubt that you're arguing in good faith, and yes: motivation doesn't change validity of an argument, but being part of a minority undoubtably helps you better notice and understand issues like inclusivity and discrimination, which is central to the 2016 criticism of JdG.

          2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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