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    1. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 6 Sep 2019

      And there's plenty of evidence: If you watch videos of @jdegoes recorded after his keynote at @scalapeno_conf, you will struggle to find a single word or phrase to criticize. That's a change which came about in response to criticism. It's wilful blindness if you don't see it. /14

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    2. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 6 Sep 2019

      Why does this make me so angry? I've just finished organizing Scala World, a conference of 250 attendees, who had a fantastic time meeting, discussing, learning and sharing ideas around the Scala language, upon which I've based my entire career. /15

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    3. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 6 Sep 2019

      I've been working my arse off to try to bring people together for a few days of friendly collaboration, which I do for love, not for profit, as many other conference organizers do. @jdegoes was there, he enhanced the conference with his presence, and everyone had a good time. /16

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    4. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 6 Sep 2019

      Despite this, the Scala community has developed a bad reputation for "drama". That's a reputation which @typelevel are well aware of, and which has been hugely damaging to the language: orders of magnitude more damaging than @jdegoes, before you even count his contributions. /17

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    5. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 6 Sep 2019

      And yesterday's action against @jdegoes knowingly stokes this fire because a handful (and it is just a handful; not speculative hordes) of people can't work with @jdegoes. The action is divisive, selfish, and it's entirely predictable that few positives will come from it. /18

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    6. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 6 Sep 2019

      Like me, @jdegoes earns a living through Scala. He's not going to "disappear" overnight, or stop his self-promotion any more than @lightbend are, because we all rely on it to be profitable, and anyone can see this. /19

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    7. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 6 Sep 2019

      Scala is approaching an exciting but challenging period of change. We're about to get a whole host of new features which will enable us to write smarter, more elegant, more expressive code. We're at the forefront of technology, and it's going to be usable in Scala 3 soon. /20

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    8. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 6 Sep 2019

      And yet, after these two coincidental actions against @jdegoes in as many days, for the first time in over a decade, I have found myself considering whether I really want to be a part of this community. After the enjoyment of Scala World, it's sobering and even depressing. /21

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    9. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 6 Sep 2019

      As I already said, my entire career has been based around Scala. If the actions of @typelevel and @skillsmatter are making *me* reconsider that choice, then how do they look to a developer who hasn't invested nearly so much of their life into this language? /22

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    10. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 6 Sep 2019

      But the actions are unlikely to be reversed. @typelevel will inevitably continue to do a lot of good work for the community, and I shall continue to support their positive contributions, though they shall be forever tainted by yesterday's self-indulgent decision. /23

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      Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 6 Sep 2019

      I can do no better than suggest that the best we can do is to move on quickly and hope, against expectation, that @typelevel and @jdegoes can coexist in the same community, and find the magnanimity not to tear it apart. /24

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        1. Mark Lewis‏ @DrMarkCLewis 6 Sep 2019
          Replying to @propensive @typelevel @jdegoes

          Thank you for taking the time to write all of this. I see the drama on my Twitter feed, but I have always sat on the side because I am not informed. This thread was very helpful to me.

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        1. Tim Steinbach‏ @Tim_Steinbach 6 Sep 2019
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          Thank you for writing this

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        1. Rui Batista‏ @ragb 6 Sep 2019
          Replying to @propensive @typelevel @jdegoes

          Thanks John, for this and everything you’ve been doing.

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        1. Wojtek Malinowski‏ @VoytechM 6 Sep 2019
          Replying to @propensive @typelevel @jdegoes

          Hi Jon, we never spoke, but I just want to say you are also an inspirational person and I hope you won't leave the Scala community. I wish you many hugs.

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        1. jorge‏ @jaliss 6 Sep 2019
          Replying to @propensive @typelevel @jdegoes

          👏👏👏👏

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        1. lvicente.sanchez‏ @lvicentesanchez 6 Sep 2019
          Replying to @propensive @typelevel @jdegoes

          Thank you Jon! You have expressed what many of us are afraid to say due to current climate. You have my full respect and support.

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        1. Pedro Furlanetto‏ @pedrofurla 6 Sep 2019
          Replying to @propensive @typelevel @jdegoes

          Thanks Jon. Totally agree.

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        1. Pedro Furlanetto‏ @pedrofurla 6 Sep 2019
          Replying to @propensive @typelevel @jdegoes

          Thank s for the tons of reason and speck of hope

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