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    1. Isaka Traore‏ @itraor 22 Aug 2019
      Replying to @gabro27 @propensive

      Not if I read it correctly, it could be easily reversed upon some triggers such as code merge.

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    2. Gabriele Petronella‏ @gabro27 22 Aug 2019
      Replying to @itraor @propensive

      you mean converting it to the older syntax? I suspect it won’t take long to find ambiguous examples when mixing semicolon inferences and significant indentation

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    3. Isaka Traore‏ @itraor 22 Aug 2019
      Replying to @gabro27 @propensive

      Yes, I read the whole thing and the example. It's marked as an exploration that would be stupid to dismiss without trying out, so not likely to appear before at least two release cycles, if ever.

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    4. Gabriele Petronella‏ @gabro27 22 Aug 2019
      Replying to @itraor @propensive

      I understand, but notice that losing tooling support is not “personal taste”, it’s a thing that will simply happen when the syntax changes so drastically. Is it really worth it to rewrite a formatter from scratch for trying out that syntax? I don’t think so.

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    5. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 22 Aug 2019
      Replying to @gabro27 @itraor

      Wouldn't a formatter be redundant? ;)

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    6. Isaka Traore‏ @itraor 22 Aug 2019
      Replying to @propensive @gabro27

      Exactly what I thought, if spacing is significant then by definition code is broken when spacing isn't right. This is really about being opinionated about style by design

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    7. Gabriele Petronella‏ @gabro27 22 Aug 2019
      Replying to @itraor @propensive

      That’s why python doesn’t have a formatter. Oh wait! 😅

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    8. Isaka Traore‏ @itraor 22 Aug 2019
      Replying to @gabro27 @propensive

      Formatter would get a new job to do. It may well come to nothing. But then someone could fork the idea, spend a weekend tinkering and change everybody's way of thinking for good. Who knows.

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    9. Gabriele Petronella‏ @gabro27 22 Aug 2019
      Replying to @itraor @propensive

      I lost you here. Formatter will have roughly the same job, and that’s the same as they do in Python (see 'black' for example). Writing a formatter from scratch is not a weekend project, unless you have a lot of weekends :)

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    10. Isaka Traore‏ @itraor 22 Aug 2019
      Replying to @gabro27 @propensive

      Good point! Indeed I do respect the efforts involved. The word weekend wasn't correct in this context.

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      Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 22 Aug 2019
      Replying to @itraor @gabro27

      It would be interesting to know how long @odersky spent on modifying Scala to support this. It might be *some* indication of how long it would take to modify other tools, without the luxury of knowing the syntax inside out, or being able to choose the design on a whim.

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        1. Isaka Traore‏ @itraor 24 Aug 2019
          Replying to @propensive @gabro27 @odersky

          I scanned the PR diff, thought the reverse steps were neat. I actually didn't expect this to be controversial. But I'm too lazy to be writing tools, so I just keep watching the space.

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