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    1. Isaac Abraham‏ @isaac_abraham 3 Jul 2019

      Is this true? I thought that Kotlin was taking large chunks of developers out of the Scala base, not the other way around.pic.twitter.com/vTA4TcDyYP

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    2. soc‏ @oxnrtr 6 Jul 2019
      Replying to @isaac_abraham

      It's not.

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      Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 6 Jul 2019
      Replying to @oxnrtr @isaac_abraham

      I haven't heard any stories of people from the a Scala community "leaving for Kotlin", but the ones I know are probably those least likely to. I suspect there are many more non-Scala developers than ever before choosing to learn Kotlin instead of Scala though.

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        1. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 6 Jul 2019
          Replying to @propensive @oxnrtr @isaac_abraham

          I suspect, also, that many of them saw Kotlin as a good stepping-stone towards Scala, but ended up satisfied with Kotlin and didn't feel the need to make any further steps.

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        2. Salar Rahmanian (@softinio@fosstodon.org)‏ @SalarRahmanian 6 Jul 2019
          Replying to @propensive @oxnrtr @isaac_abraham

          100% agreed. I live in the bay area which has a high concentration of software developers. I can tell you 95% of the people I have met and come across who use Kotlin or are learning kotlin are android developers. Even the remaining 5% are not going to kotlin via scala.

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        3. Maciek Gorywoda  ⚡‏ @makingthematrix 7 Jul 2019
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          I think I have a story to tell y'all, and you're not going to like it. Yes, Kotlin is taking ground from Scala, and no, it's not only people who started in Java, wanted to try Scala, but somehow ended up with Kotlin. I don't think folks like that exist. But the problem is real./1

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        1. Alex Kuiper‏ @NightWhistler 7 Jul 2019
          Replying to @propensive @oxnrtr @isaac_abraham

          What I can imagine is that people looking for A Better Java will find that in Kotlin now, whereas in the past Scala might have filled that niche. For people looking for FP on the JVM Scala is still the go-to choice I think. I don't see Eta gaining much traction yet.

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        1. Denis‏ @_DenisFtw_ 7 Jul 2019
          Replying to @propensive @isaac_abraham

          Also don't forget gross incompetence at the managerial level. Relying on mediocre Medium posts and Wikipedia articles when making strategic technical decisions is very real in our industry.

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