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    5. Artur Gajowy‏ @ArturGajowy 7 Apr 2019
      Replying to @jdegoes

      How do you automatically derive a Gen for a product / coproduct based on its elements? Without using macros / template haskell that is?

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    7. Artur Gajowy‏ @ArturGajowy 7 Apr 2019
      Replying to @jdegoes

      What about Scala? Macros in Scala have a bad history and unclear future :) TH is commonly frowned upon, I think for reasons inherent to macros and also applying to Scala's macros as well - poor visibility of generated code, magic-ness (non-standard behavior of syntax).

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    8. Artur Gajowy‏ @ArturGajowy 7 Apr 2019
      Replying to @ArturGajowy @jdegoes

      I guess I could whip up a Generic TC using Shapeless / Magnolia - and it'd be a proper TC. I like the idea of using just the core of the default Arbitrary to derive `defaultGen[A: Generic]` 👌Gotta try How do I override just one (middle) level of the derivation tho?

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      Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 8 Apr 2019
      Replying to @ArturGajowy @jdegoes

      You generally can override a middle level in the ADT just by having an implicit instance for it in scope. Magnolia will defer to any other implicit instance it finds.

      9:38 AM - 8 Apr 2019
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        2. Artur Gajowy‏ @ArturGajowy 8 Apr 2019
          Replying to @propensive @jdegoes

          Sure thing! I do that all the time :) But in my hypothetical case I (no longer) have an `Arbitrary` TC derived - I derive a `Generic` TC and spawn `defaultGen` based on them. Overriding the Generic makes no sense, and would result in improper instances.

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        3. Artur Gajowy‏ @ArturGajowy 8 Apr 2019
          Replying to @ArturGajowy @propensive @jdegoes

          Whis is my point, really: Arbitrary kind of defends itself as a TC because of the ease of overriding. It's an improper TC, with quite arbitrary (😎) instances - but it's not the best example of why improper TCs are wrong, because it's sooo useful...

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