right now I'm arguing against your imo outrageous suggestions rather than any specific situation or a specific group of people on reddit
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Replying to @PLT_cheater @ugobourdon and
I'm not sure why they seem outrageous. None of my suggestions are extreme in any way (it's somewhat against my nature). I've just shared ideas which I think should make the community more enjoyable for the majority of people (and defended them).
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Replying to @propensive @ugobourdon and
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You assume that people can forego their dignity, like it's some malleable, insignificant thing. See here:https://twitter.com/PLT_cheater/status/1085781363805048832 …
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Replying to @PLT_cheater @ugobourdon and
That's a good point. I more or less don't care about being right so much as finding the best answer. I'm not sure that's the entirety of "dignity", though...
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Replying to @propensive @ugobourdon and
based on our conversation, i think you need to have a very long thought about what human dignity is, and what oppression is, and why it's bad.
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Replying to @PLT_cheater @ugobourdon and
I'm trying to find the best way to reply to this, but I honestly find it quite patronising. I've barely even been oppressed, but on the couple of occasions I've experienced even the mildest oppression, being bullied at school for example, I reached out and talked to the bullies.
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Replying to @propensive @PLT_cheater and
I worked damn hard to get to know them better, and tried harder to be friendly to them, somewhat incessantly. It paid off 100%, and I also think that they became better people because someone confronted them with friendship rather than rejection. Some of them are still friends.
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Replying to @propensive @ugobourdon and
That only works when they don't have absolute irrevocable power over you and over silencing you because you are in a shared social context. In this case they can just remove you from the social context, ridding of the nuisance.
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Replying to @PLT_cheater @ugobourdon and
That's why I wish they would talk to the target of the ban instead of banning, and why I said banning was a blunt tool.
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Replying to @propensive @PLT_cheater and
personally, I've soured somewhat on initiating the kind of private conversations you suggest, after I've repeatedly had out-of-context snippets of those private conversations end up shared in public :-/ but I'm very glad when others step in and talk to people in CoC trouble
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I know, of course, from the times we've talked about it. I don't blame you for being despondent. If possible, I'd like others to engage on behalf of moderators, too. One way or another, I think one-on-one discussions where neither party is canvassing to an audience are important.
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Replying to @propensive @SethTisue and
yeah, let's have closed-doors secret trials, that'll end well
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