Jon Pretty

Oh, I wasn't talking about you, here. I was talking about "some people"...

Anyway, the critique was really just trying to moderate my own suggestion that I'm special in some way that makes me more reasonable, logical and willing to admit I'm wrong. I think it's probably more of an aspiration than a reality...

sounds to me like Jon thinks he's special and therefore needs to explain his point well.

I mean the critique of my own point, in case that wasn't clear. If it seems like I'm putting a lot of time into explaining these points, it's because I care about avoiding being misinterpreted. And I'm sure I won't always succeed.

everyone understands your points. they are not hard to understand or novel or unique to you. we just disagree with them because they are morally objectively wrong. you can't lecture your way out of that.

As with most things, I think he has some good points. It would be helpful for offenders to go out of their way to show they are unoffensive, but at the same time, the offended need to understand that they do not exclusively own the domain nor the way it should be described.