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Supporting Scala through professional training and open-source software. Responsible for Magnolia, Fury, Scala World and Functional Africa.

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    1. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 16 Jan 2019
      Replying to @propensive @PLT_cheater and

      I'm also concerned that "shouting at the bullies" makes the whole environment more unpleasant for all the innocent bystanders. I have much more interest in having them know that it's a friendly place.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    2. Boltzmann Brain Think Tank‏ @PLT_cheater 16 Jan 2019
      Replying to @propensive @ugobourdon and

      Boltzmann Brain Think Tank Retweeted Jon Pretty

      then one would expose the injustice of a crooked system, and everyone who isn't immoral supports this, including you.https://twitter.com/propensive/status/1085780516794552321 …

      Boltzmann Brain Think Tank added,

      Jon Pretty @propensive
      Replying to @PLT_cheater @ugobourdon and 4 others
      Ok, so I'd agree that the equivalence of my Brexit example to @fpmortals's situation might have been a stretch. But what about when you can reasonably predict the expected outcome of that third option of fighting for justice?
      1 reply 1 retweet 2 likes
    3. Boltzmann Brain Think Tank‏ @PLT_cheater 16 Jan 2019
      Replying to @PLT_cheater @propensive and

      Boltzmann Brain Think Tank Retweeted Jon Pretty

      there isn't a friendly place run by crooked orgs just like there aren't friendly people who just bully "that one guy no one likes anyways". you'd be living a lie. making the place attractive to more people just gives the bullies more prey to prowl upon.https://twitter.com/propensive/status/1085780937105846273 …

      Boltzmann Brain Think Tank added,

      Jon Pretty @propensive
      Replying to @propensive @PLT_cheater and 5 others
      I'm also concerned that "shouting at the bullies" makes the whole environment more unpleasant for all the innocent bystanders. I have much more interest in having them know that it's a friendly place.
      1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
    4. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 16 Jan 2019
      Replying to @PLT_cheater @ugobourdon and

      Yes, but I think the more you talk about this, the more "moderators" shift towards "bullies" in a "crooked organisation" and the language is fooling you into thinking they're something they're not: I really don't believe there's evil intent. They're doing their jobs; maybe badly.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    5. Boltzmann Brain Think Tank‏ @PLT_cheater 16 Jan 2019
      Replying to @propensive @ugobourdon and

      right now I'm arguing against your imo outrageous suggestions rather than any specific situation or a specific group of people on reddit

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    6. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 16 Jan 2019
      Replying to @PLT_cheater @ugobourdon and

      I'm not sure why they seem outrageous. None of my suggestions are extreme in any way (it's somewhat against my nature). I've just shared ideas which I think should make the community more enjoyable for the majority of people (and defended them).

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    7. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 16 Jan 2019
      Replying to @propensive @PLT_cheater and

      And I've gone further by suggesting to @fpmortals how he could enjoy his time there better. I don't think the suggestions are controversial. If they seem outrageous, I think you're seeing something I'm not.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. ugo bourdon‏ @ugobourdon 18 Jan 2019
      Replying to @propensive @PLT_cheater and

      And this is perhaps you make this suggestion, because you don't see this something. Say to someone who is victim of abuse of power for his words to stop to say what he say can be seem as outrageous.

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    9. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 18 Jan 2019
      Replying to @ugobourdon @PLT_cheater and

      Essentially what I said was, "the way you are saying things, people are misinterpreting you, and you could say these things differently so that they are less likely to." That's a bit more nuanced than the way it's paraphrased in your tweet, though.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    10. ugo bourdon‏ @ugobourdon 18 Jan 2019
      Replying to @propensive @PLT_cheater and

      What happened was not a misinterpreting, but was a abuse of power. And what @fommil demonstrate is part of scala "core" community are not so inclusive, welcoming or benevolent as they pretend to be.

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      Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 18 Jan 2019
      Replying to @ugobourdon @PLT_cheater and

      But it was a misinterpretation: I believe @fpmortals was responding in good faith, and the moderator did not interpret it that way. I don't know who the moderators of the Scala subreddit are, or if I've ever met them. They're not in the "core" community, to my knowledge.

      8:00 AM - 18 Jan 2019
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        1. ugo bourdon‏ @ugobourdon 18 Jan 2019
          Replying to @propensive @PLT_cheater and

          "core" in the meanning of sharing believe on scala programming language.

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        1. ugo bourdon‏ @ugobourdon 18 Jan 2019
          Replying to @propensive @PLT_cheater and

          It is your interpretation. The facts are : 1) @fommil share an xp and an opinion 2) he as ban by the modo for that My interpretation is some of the scalaz contributors express disagreements on the future of Scala; for their own need; share by lightbend and Odersky 1/2

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        2. ugo bourdon‏ @ugobourdon 18 Jan 2019
          Replying to @ugobourdon @propensive and

          and they explain with precision why they thing lightbend is wrong. And what we saw in answer, is ad hominem, side step, or argument from authority ... 2/2 2/2

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