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    1. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 16 Jan 2019
      Replying to @PLT_cheater @ugobourdon and

      Ok, so I'd agree that the equivalence of my Brexit example to @fpmortals's situation might have been a stretch. But what about when you can reasonably predict the expected outcome of that third option of fighting for justice?

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    2. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 16 Jan 2019
      Replying to @propensive @PLT_cheater and

      My implication being that you're guaranteed to lose.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 16 Jan 2019
      Replying to @propensive @PLT_cheater and

      I'm also concerned that "shouting at the bullies" makes the whole environment more unpleasant for all the innocent bystanders. I have much more interest in having them know that it's a friendly place.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    4. Boltzmann Brain Think Tank‏ @PLT_cheater 16 Jan 2019
      Replying to @propensive @ugobourdon and

      Boltzmann Brain Think Tank Retweeted Jon Pretty

      then one would expose the injustice of a crooked system, and everyone who isn't immoral supports this, including you.https://twitter.com/propensive/status/1085780516794552321 …

      Boltzmann Brain Think Tank added,

      Jon Pretty @propensive
      Replying to @PLT_cheater @ugobourdon and 4 others
      Ok, so I'd agree that the equivalence of my Brexit example to @fpmortals's situation might have been a stretch. But what about when you can reasonably predict the expected outcome of that third option of fighting for justice?
      1 reply 1 retweet 2 likes
    5. Boltzmann Brain Think Tank‏ @PLT_cheater 16 Jan 2019
      Replying to @PLT_cheater @propensive and

      Boltzmann Brain Think Tank Retweeted Jon Pretty

      there isn't a friendly place run by crooked orgs just like there aren't friendly people who just bully "that one guy no one likes anyways". you'd be living a lie. making the place attractive to more people just gives the bullies more prey to prowl upon.https://twitter.com/propensive/status/1085780937105846273 …

      Boltzmann Brain Think Tank added,

      Jon Pretty @propensive
      Replying to @propensive @PLT_cheater and 5 others
      I'm also concerned that "shouting at the bullies" makes the whole environment more unpleasant for all the innocent bystanders. I have much more interest in having them know that it's a friendly place.
      1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
    6. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 16 Jan 2019
      Replying to @PLT_cheater @ugobourdon and

      Yes, but I think the more you talk about this, the more "moderators" shift towards "bullies" in a "crooked organisation" and the language is fooling you into thinking they're something they're not: I really don't believe there's evil intent. They're doing their jobs; maybe badly.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    7. Boltzmann Brain Think Tank‏ @PLT_cheater 16 Jan 2019
      Replying to @propensive @ugobourdon and

      right now I'm arguing against your imo outrageous suggestions rather than any specific situation or a specific group of people on reddit

      1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
    8. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 16 Jan 2019
      Replying to @PLT_cheater @ugobourdon and

      I'm not sure why they seem outrageous. None of my suggestions are extreme in any way (it's somewhat against my nature). I've just shared ideas which I think should make the community more enjoyable for the majority of people (and defended them).

      2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    9. Boltzmann Brain Think Tank‏ @PLT_cheater 16 Jan 2019
      Replying to @propensive @ugobourdon and

      Boltzmann Brain Think Tank Retweeted Boltzmann Brain Think Tank

      You assume that people can forego their dignity, like it's some malleable, insignificant thing. See here:https://twitter.com/PLT_cheater/status/1085781363805048832 …

      Boltzmann Brain Think Tank added,

      Boltzmann Brain Think Tank @PLT_cheater
      Replying to @PLT_cheater @propensive and 5 others
      even /admitting/ the possibility that someone might do the convenient, subservient thing in face of injustice is an act of dehumanizing them.
      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    10. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 16 Jan 2019
      Replying to @PLT_cheater @ugobourdon and

      That's a good point. I more or less don't care about being right so much as finding the best answer. I'm not sure that's the entirety of "dignity", though...

      4 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 16 Jan 2019
      Replying to @propensive @PLT_cheater and

      And I might be assuming that other people can let go of their beliefs as trivially as I can.

      10:37 PM - 16 Jan 2019
      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
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        2. ugo bourdon‏ @ugobourdon 18 Jan 2019
          Replying to @propensive @PLT_cheater and

          You can't do that( let go your belief), it is a illusion and a belief :D

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 18 Jan 2019
          Replying to @ugobourdon @PLT_cheater and

          I didn't explain this point well, in hindsight. I meant to say that I try to be open to giving up arguments I start off believing in, in the face of contradictory evidence that I'm wrong. I've noticed some other people tend, in contrast, to "double-down" when challenged.

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