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    1. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 16 Jan 2019
      Replying to @PLT_cheater @ugobourdon and

      Sorry, I don't get the reference... sorry (genuinely) if it was a lazy equivalence. I did actually think twice about it...

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    2. Boltzmann Brain Think Tank‏ @PLT_cheater 16 Jan 2019
      Replying to @propensive @ugobourdon and

      there was a false dichotomy. when presented with two unjust options, the third option is always to fight for justice. that's why smarmy "tips" on how to make friends and influence people for someone bullied are a farce when you could be spending this time shouting at bullies.

      1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
    3. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 16 Jan 2019
      Replying to @PLT_cheater @ugobourdon and

      Ok, so I'd agree that the equivalence of my Brexit example to @fpmortals's situation might have been a stretch. But what about when you can reasonably predict the expected outcome of that third option of fighting for justice?

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    4. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 16 Jan 2019
      Replying to @propensive @PLT_cheater and

      My implication being that you're guaranteed to lose.

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    5. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 16 Jan 2019
      Replying to @propensive @PLT_cheater and

      I'm also concerned that "shouting at the bullies" makes the whole environment more unpleasant for all the innocent bystanders. I have much more interest in having them know that it's a friendly place.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    6. Boltzmann Brain Think Tank‏ @PLT_cheater 16 Jan 2019
      Replying to @propensive @ugobourdon and

      Boltzmann Brain Think Tank Retweeted Jon Pretty

      then one would expose the injustice of a crooked system, and everyone who isn't immoral supports this, including you.https://twitter.com/propensive/status/1085780516794552321 …

      Boltzmann Brain Think Tank added,

      Jon Pretty @propensive
      Replying to @PLT_cheater @ugobourdon and 4 others
      Ok, so I'd agree that the equivalence of my Brexit example to @fpmortals's situation might have been a stretch. But what about when you can reasonably predict the expected outcome of that third option of fighting for justice?
      1 reply 1 retweet 2 likes
    7. Boltzmann Brain Think Tank‏ @PLT_cheater 16 Jan 2019
      Replying to @PLT_cheater @propensive and

      Boltzmann Brain Think Tank Retweeted Jon Pretty

      there isn't a friendly place run by crooked orgs just like there aren't friendly people who just bully "that one guy no one likes anyways". you'd be living a lie. making the place attractive to more people just gives the bullies more prey to prowl upon.https://twitter.com/propensive/status/1085780937105846273 …

      Boltzmann Brain Think Tank added,

      Jon Pretty @propensive
      Replying to @propensive @PLT_cheater and 5 others
      I'm also concerned that "shouting at the bullies" makes the whole environment more unpleasant for all the innocent bystanders. I have much more interest in having them know that it's a friendly place.
      1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
    8. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 16 Jan 2019
      Replying to @PLT_cheater @ugobourdon and

      Yes, but I think the more you talk about this, the more "moderators" shift towards "bullies" in a "crooked organisation" and the language is fooling you into thinking they're something they're not: I really don't believe there's evil intent. They're doing their jobs; maybe badly.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    9. Boltzmann Brain Think Tank‏ @PLT_cheater 16 Jan 2019
      Replying to @propensive @ugobourdon and

      right now I'm arguing against your imo outrageous suggestions rather than any specific situation or a specific group of people on reddit

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    10. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 16 Jan 2019
      Replying to @PLT_cheater @ugobourdon and

      I'm not sure why they seem outrageous. None of my suggestions are extreme in any way (it's somewhat against my nature). I've just shared ideas which I think should make the community more enjoyable for the majority of people (and defended them).

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      Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 16 Jan 2019
      Replying to @propensive @PLT_cheater and

      And I've gone further by suggesting to @fpmortals how he could enjoy his time there better. I don't think the suggestions are controversial. If they seem outrageous, I think you're seeing something I'm not.

      10:33 PM - 16 Jan 2019
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        1. ugo bourdon‏ @ugobourdon 18 Jan 2019
          Replying to @propensive @PLT_cheater and

          And this is perhaps you make this suggestion, because you don't see this something. Say to someone who is victim of abuse of power for his words to stop to say what he say can be seem as outrageous.

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        2. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 18 Jan 2019
          Replying to @ugobourdon @PLT_cheater and

          Essentially what I said was, "the way you are saying things, people are misinterpreting you, and you could say these things differently so that they are less likely to." That's a bit more nuanced than the way it's paraphrased in your tweet, though.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
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