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    1. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 15 Jan 2019

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      I think this is failing to understand, once again, that people simply don't behave as perfect, omniscient, objective moral arbiters. They simply get tired of things they perceive as negative, regardless of whether they're justified or factual. https://t.co/5NY8UOPCi6 

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    2. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 15 Jan 2019

      I think that you have to go to great lengths to make yourself clear to a heterogeneous audience to avoid being misinterpreted by at least some part of that audience. It's difficult, but if you have a point you believe in, it's your duty to be persuasive: you owe it to your cause.

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    3. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 15 Jan 2019

      It seems delusional to pretend we're talking only to well-informed logicians, so we should lower all our expectations on how convincing we can be when making any point at all to a large audience. This new online world is, for better or worse, making politicians of all of us.

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    4. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 15 Jan 2019

      So if you have an argument to make, you need to decide whether you care about that more than just being right—your "ego", if you like—and if you do, try to empathize with every corner of your audience to persuade them.

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    5. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 15 Jan 2019

      Blocking and banning are pretty blunt tools for dealing with issues like this, but I can see the appeal to moderators: if they perceive negativity, they get a switch to turn it off and increase net positivity in the forum. But it also has the potential to exacerbate the problem.

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    6. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 15 Jan 2019

      If someone feels they've been maligned, and is willing to make a cause of it, hitting the "ban" button has the potential not only to improve positive vibes in one forum, but to create negative vibes elsewhere. Moderators need to understand that this is a reality of what happens.

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    7. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 15 Jan 2019

      So what do I propose? Talk to each other. Talk individually; privately. Take egos and politics out of the equation. Try to empathize, to understand each other. If you don't, then talk some more. If you end up arguing, take some time out, then talk again. Don't close the dialog.

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    8. Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 15 Jan 2019

      Don't expect anyone to say, "you were right all along, I'll reevaluate my worldview". But the more you talk, the more you'll see that the other person has a viewpoint, and the more you'll be able to show them that you do too. And if you do care about yours, you should want that.

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    9. Voytek Pituła  💛/ 🖤 (@krever@mas.to)‏ @Krever01 15 Jan 2019
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      Couldn't say it better. I'm so tired of shit posting where people don't bother to think for a second how their message will be received and then expecting the same exact interpretation as is in their head. And make a drama if it's different.

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      Jon Pretty‏ @propensive 15 Jan 2019
      Replying to @Krever01

      I think everyone finds it tiresome. But humans run on feelings much more than logic (wouldn't everything be easier if we were just more logical?!), and I try to give some allowance for that. It's more or less forgivable when it's not too frequent... :)

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