Geoffrey MillerVerified account

You're mind-reading now. He's never said "one system fits all people". Just that, it's the most stable system for society, at large, and works for most people, on average. The conservative idea is to not break things that are functional. Mess with at own peril, that's all.

The conservative idea is also to leave folks be so they can live their own lives as they see fit. Land of the free.

Here's my hot take. The "enforced monogamy" thing was an attempt by Jordan to be especially provocative. He used the NYT article (wide exposure) to try to stir up some extra controversy (which is working). It's clumsy though & feels forced to me, almost disingenuous.

I say disingenuous based entirely on my own gut reaction. It's just my opinion. But everything up to this moment has felt "organic"w/ Jordan. This though, like I said, feels a little forced. It's missing something. It just feels off.

Norms that are negotiated among broadly free individuals are not, by my definition, "totalitarian." Norms that are imposed top down with autocratic coercion are totalitarian. Do you believe that the preeminence of monogamy in Western societies is a simple autocratic imposition?

Yes, the monogamy norm is imposed top down by the institution of goverment by coercion, hence its totalitarian. Its preeminence is largely due to privatization cost and benefits of having offspring tho.