My podcast with @ezraklein is now available on the #wakinguppodcast:
"Identity & Honesty"
https://samharris.org/podcasts/123-identity-honesty/ …pic.twitter.com/5ITSkSB3BP
Is there any empirical evidence that could make @ezraklein change his mind about these issues? I'd love to see him give a list of specific findings that would lead him to update his views. If he can't, he's just an ideologue.
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Yea. But same for Sam. Nothing can falsify his certainty that "identity politics" is what the other people are doing. Both had good, important point. But I still enjoy watching each of their filters clash.
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I like that Ezra announces his updates and learning throughout the conversation, despite them still disagreeing. I like that Sam can package everything in two judo moves. I wonder if Sam agrees there can be moral panics about "moral panics." He must.
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I thought we already knew that Klein was an ideologue...
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Ditto for Sam. Neither talked science. Murray also seems unaware of alternative interpretations of the positive manifold in IQ tests https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/6b66/f46e5e20cfd7190d492626b586e78ad6c682.pdf … (was cited in original Vox piece). One cannot simply assume that there is such a thing as g that IQ tests measure.
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Don’t see your point. This seemed a peer review of Harris. Harris just held on like a bull rider but didn’t expound and certainly didn’t expose himself any further
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They are operating in different epistemologies. They aren't tuned to the same senses of "evidence"
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Like all people in this camp, his beliefs cannot be falsified. Any evidence to contradict his beliefs are just further evidence of a corrupt system of oppression. Being wrong just means you're more right than ever. This is how superman died lol
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Klein isn’t interested in evidence even though he pays it lip service. He did seem keen on history, lived experience & power/privilege. He said as much several times in various ways. This is a shortcut to justice that reprioritizes other ethical commitments above truth.
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