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Psychology professor; wrote The Mating Mind, Spent, Mate, & Virtue Signaling. Agnostic centrist into evolution, sex, sentience, freedom & future.

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    1. Ben Shapiro‏Verified account @benshapiro 29 Mar 2018
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      Because existentialism (by your definition) tends to devolve into a wide variety of evidence-less governing philosophies that all too often end with violence and bloodshed, leading to nihilism. That's the history of the 19th and 20th centuries.https://twitter.com/primalpoly/status/979476420928839681 …

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      Geoffrey MillerVerified account @primalpoly
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      Why does everyone confuse existentialism (people who can't believe in supernatural deontologies consciously constructing new value-systems) with nihilism (rejecting all value-systems if they can't claim a universal deontological basis)? Oh I think I just answered my question.
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    2. Ben Shapiro‏Verified account @benshapiro 29 Mar 2018
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      Advances in science and technology didn't require existentialism, and gains from science and technology haven't obviated the human search for meaning. And that's not to rip science and tech -- they're phenomenal!

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    3. Geoffrey Miller‏Verified account @primalpoly 29 Mar 2018
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      Oh absolutely. I wasn't advocating existentialism as a guide to morality. Science is much more informative, as in the @SamHarrisOrg book 'The moral landscape'. Or, just go full rule-utilitarian and join the Effective Altruism movement.

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    4. Ben Shapiro‏Verified account @benshapiro 29 Mar 2018
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      I appreciate Sam's scientific attempts to generate morality -- though Comte advocated the same thing, and it ended pretty badly. I agree with a lot of Sam's proposals, but I'm still not convinced by his argument that you can derive "ought" from "is."

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      Geoffrey Miller‏Verified account @primalpoly 29 Mar 2018
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      You can't go straight from 'is' to 'ought', but empirical insights can guide ethical priorities a lot, e.g. actual death rates from semi-auto rifles (300/year) vs. medical errors (100k/year) might inform the ethics of gun control?

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        1. Kevin‏ @Intrinsic29 29 Mar 2018
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          Core values simply are what they are (e.g. "is") in humans and other agents and science can find counter-intuitive ways for those agents to better thrive given those core values. The rest is basically arbitrary semantics imo.

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        1. Rian Schmits‏ @rianschmits 29 Mar 2018
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          Replying to @primalpoly @benshapiro @SamHarrisOrg

          I think Sam's point is that 'is vs ought' is a false dichotomy. Moral questions are not removed from epistemology.

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        1. Ziinjin‏ @ziinjin 29 Mar 2018
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          Replying to @primalpoly @benshapiro @SamHarrisOrg

          "you can't" Always be cautious of people speaking in absolutes. It's rarely that clear cut "I'm not convinced" is at least an opening

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        2. Mr.O‏ @njameso 29 Mar 2018
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          I don’t see an honest argument here as medical errors are likely mostly non-intentional and fire arm deaths are likely mostly intentional. So there’s a strawman lurking here somewhere.

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        3. Tigerlore‏ @Tigerlore88 29 Mar 2018
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          No straw man. He said priorities. A 10% reduction of gun deaths per year would be 30, of medical errors would be 10,000. If saving lives is what matters most, then medical errors would appear to be the low hanging fruit.

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