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Psychology professor; wrote The Mating Mind, Spent, Mate, & Virtue Signaling. Agnostic centrist into evolution, sex, sentience, freedom & future.

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    1. Patrick‏ @partking7 21 Mar 2018
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      No, I think an executive order like this would not actually lessen free speech suppression, but exacerbate it. There are better ways to effect cultural impact than misuse of unilateral tactics like executive order, which exists for different purposes. One way is legislation.

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    2. FlorbFnarb‏ @FlorbFnarb 22 Mar 2018
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      We don’t need another law. We already have the 1A, which is sufficient. The executive is required to enforce that Constitutional restriction.

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    3. Patrick‏ @partking7 22 Mar 2018
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      To effectively and legally take steps such as defunding, we likely would need law. Withholding difficult to defend against both judicial and legislative counter because there is little/no establishment that universities are unconstitutional. Your feelings here would not be facts.

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    4. FlorbFnarb‏ @FlorbFnarb 22 Mar 2018
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      It’s plain that universities are acting unconstitutionally. They claim that people do not have the right to free speech on most of the university, they actively allow rioters a heckler’s veto, and they favor liberal speakers over conservatives.

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    5. Patrick‏ @partking7 22 Mar 2018
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      Its not plain hence your attraction to unilateral executive order (which intentionally, explicitly end-arounds whether it is considered plain by others). Your argument specifically undermines your stance. 1A would work quite well to defend universities from your order, after all.

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    6. FlorbFnarb‏ @FlorbFnarb 22 Mar 2018
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      Public universities have no 1A rights to favor one viewpoint over another.

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    7. Patrick‏ @partking7 22 Mar 2018
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      That would be false. You're in fact arguing that universities must favor your executive order's viewpoint over competing viewpoints that might come from judicial or legislative or university admin or faculty challenge. So...that why you should choose a better tool than EO.

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    8. FlorbFnarb‏ @FlorbFnarb 22 Mar 2018
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      No, I'm saying they don't get to favor any viewpoint. There is no way you could have honestly misread what I said. At no point did I say or imply they were supposed to favor my viewpoint, but that's what you wanted to believe, so you believe it.

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    9. FlorbFnarb‏ @FlorbFnarb 22 Mar 2018
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      You just don't want them paying a penalty for their intentional attempts to suppress beliefs they disagree with.

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    10. Patrick‏ @partking7 22 Mar 2018
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      If we can mitigate suppression without EO penalties, yes. Best for everyone. Why you would *want* EO penalties over other approaches? EO's are temporary, unilateral, partisan, legally fragile, and often hobby horses. Why favor EO except to avoid constitutional legal processes?

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      An EO to enforce the constitution is a constitutional legal process.

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