Real cultural appropriation -- that's when someone is proud of his culture despite having done nothing to support it, extend it or transform it: a message to the far right.
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Replying to @jordanbpeterson
Are kids allowed to be proud of their culture if they haven't yet supported, extended, or transformed it? Or is there some age minimum for pride?
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Replying to @primalpoly @jordanbpeterson
I think the appropriation is in the claiming of pride in which you did nothing to contribute. The "pride" you're thinking of may be the sense of gratitude for accomplishment of others.
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Replying to @M_Phatical @jordanbpeterson
If a current individual can take pride in what an earlier version of itself accomplished a few years ago, why can't families and cultures take pride in what earlier versions of themselves accomplished a few generations ago? Both rely on continuity of identity over time.
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Replying to @primalpoly @jordanbpeterson
And I wonder if that works the same way with shame? Or should It? Should take on the shame of past generations? We do say "I'm ashamed of you" to people close to us when they've done wrong. Should we be?
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Similar to what I was thinking. Seems to me we cannot claim pride in the good amongst our forebears without also bearing the burden of guilt for their misdeeds...or perpetuating their resentments, etc. Problematic.
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This is a tricky issue. Some groups demand that other groups feel collective shame without being allowed to feel collective pride. Others, the reverse. Need to challenge the double standard: either we can feel both collective pride and shame (about different things), or neither.
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Replying to @primalpoly @Vekica and
both collective pride and shame -unfortunately, things always come at pairs; ex.: 'Desperate battle demands desperate means.' W. Shakespeare, Romeo and Juliet.
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