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Psychology professor; wrote The Mating Mind, Spent, Mate, & Virtue Signaling. Agnostic centrist into evolution, sex, sentience, freedom & future.

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    Geoffrey Miller‏Verified account @primalpoly 23 Nov 2017
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    If any relatives consider meat consumption unethical, you can always do 'moral offsetting' by donating to @veganoutreach. The 'offsetting' concept always sparks a fun discussion of utilitarianism v. deontology in any case.

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      2. Avi Norowitz‏ @AviN102 23 Nov 2017
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        Replying to @primalpoly @sentientist @veganoutreach

        Ethical offsetting is probably more effective than most people's attempts to do good, but it's not optimal either. http://effective-altruism.com/ea/ry/ethical_offsetting_is_antithetical_to_ea/ …

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      3. Avi Norowitz‏ @AviN102 23 Nov 2017
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        If one wants to help animals via offsets though, I'd suggest doing it as effectively as possible. @CIWF_USA and @TheHumaneLeague are doing highly effective work in corporate advocacy to improve farm animal welfare.

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      2. Max Kesin‏ @nlpnyc 23 Nov 2017
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        Obligatory http://slatestarcodex.com/2017/08/28/contra-askell-on-moral-offsets/ …

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      3. Jerseyan  📜‏ @JerseyanUSA 23 Nov 2017
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        I questioned his original Tweet, whether it was carbon or calories to be offset. Now I see it's morality? Your suggested reading is quite helpful.

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      1. Elliot Teperman‏ @tepelmacher 23 Nov 2017
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        Replying to @primalpoly @sentientist @veganoutreach

        If I mention offsetting to an omnivore they always tend to nod thoughtfully, imagine donating, dissonance disappears, and then eat more meat

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      1. Dave Collum‏ @DavidBCollum 23 Nov 2017
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        ...or let them eat in the other room.

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      1. Resolute Gentleman‏ @ResoluteGent 23 Nov 2017
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        The Venus fly trap is carnivorous.

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      1. Ted Herman │‏ @tedherman 23 Nov 2017
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        What would be optimum offset for a misanthrope?

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      1. Ari Armstrong‏ @ariarmstrong 24 Nov 2017
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        Replying to @primalpoly @sentientist @veganoutreach

        This seems like an awesome way to incentivize a vegan group to promote continued meat consumption, so they get indulgence payments.

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      1. The Independent Whig‏ @TheWhig 23 Nov 2017
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        When there is no food there is only one problem. When there is food there are many problems. Thinking meat eating is unethical is one of the first world’s many “problems.”

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