Well, for David Hume (among others) you can't get an ought at all. That's the problem.
Facts should inform values more than values inform facts. #radicalideas
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What if it was a fact that humans derived a greater sense of pleasure from a little bit of suffering?
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There are some male animals that will hurt their partners during sex. If the females don't bleed, the female is less likely to copulate.
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How do you address the claim, "you can't get an ought from an is"? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eT7yXG2aJdY …
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Naturalistic fallacy
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