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Psychology professor; wrote The Mating Mind, Spent, Mate, & Virtue Signaling. Agnostic centrist into evolution, sex, sentience, freedom & future.

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    Geoffrey Miller‏Verified account @primalpoly Apr 21
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    Geoffrey Miller Retweeted Rolf Degen

    Two things that might both be true: 1) meat-eating protects mental health in humans; 2) eating factory-farmed meat imposes massive suffering on nonhuman animals.https://twitter.com/DegenRolf/status/1252527214937194497 …

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    Rolf Degen @DegenRolf
    "The majority of studies, and especially the higher quality studies, showed that those who avoided meat consumption had significantly higher rates or risk of depression, anxiety, and/or self-harm behaviors." https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/10408398.2020.1741505 … pic.twitter.com/6pknsYCCBS
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      1. Geoffrey Miller‏Verified account @primalpoly Apr 21
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        PS for a way out of this dilemma, I highly recommend this book by @jacyreese:https://www.amazon.com/End-Animal-Farming-Entrepreneurs-Animal-Free/dp/0807019453 …

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      2. Jacy Reese Anthis‏Verified account @jacyanthis Apr 21
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        The much simpler explanation seems to be that psychological reasons for going vegetarian (e.g. deviancy, compassion for the world's problems, caring a lot about suffering, interest in dieting) are also things that cause mental health issues.

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      3. Geoffrey Miller‏Verified account @primalpoly Apr 21
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        Yep. Without random assignment, there are way too many genetic and phenotypic confounds.

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      2. Dr Emma Hilton‏ @FondOfBeetles Apr 21
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        Replying to @primalpoly

        People who angst about eating and exploiting animals/animal products are more likely to angst about other stuff?

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      3. #GalileoPrinciple‏ @Real_Adam_B Apr 21
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        Empathy leading to depression?https://www.researchgate.net/publication/285296276_Empathy_and_depression_The_moral_system_on_overdrive …

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      2. Macken‏ @MackenMurphy Apr 21
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        Replying to @primalpoly

        Perhaps we’re just depressed about all the suffering on factory farms 😉

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      3. Ivy League PhD, Activist, Banker, War Criminal‏ @ItsJustMeHereOK Apr 21
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        Replying to @MackenMurphy @primalpoly

        Also, "Depression". Are people aware of just how widely formal practioners categorize the wide-ranging, language-limited, openly-communicated feelings, emotions, & behaviors that become compressed into the jargon term "depression" Jfc, 20th c. will be looked at w/ such disdain.

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      2. Heather E Heying‏ @HeatherEHeying Apr 21
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        Yes and: Factory-farmed meat may be less healthy—including mental health—for humans to eat than is meat from smaller-scale agriculture and hunting.

        5 replies 1 retweet 41 likes
      3. Good Cops Arrest Bad Cops‏ @melliflora Apr 21
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        Replying to @HeatherEHeying @primalpoly

        And people who abstain from all meat eating may do so for reasons which co-occur to a significant degree with depression and related symptoms.

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      2. Marc Evan Aupiais  🇮🇪& 🇿🇦‏ @SACNSNew Apr 21
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        I tried giving up meat years ago. My body could not handle it. Most people I know are the same. I think vegans have a genetic difference which allows them to survive without eating meat. I prefer free range, of course. And hope to eat food that has not suffered. But must eat it.

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