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Psychology professor; wrote The Mating Mind, Spent, Mate, & Virtue Signaling. Agnostic centrist into evolution, sex, sentience, freedom & future.

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    1. Sergio Tenenbaum‏ @sergioten Apr 16
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      I was reading the original tweet naively, but now I'm thinking that perhaps you just meant to say that reject the views that lead to potential conflicts.

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    2. Sergio Tenenbaum‏ @sergioten Apr 16
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      Another obvious example: certain radical views about personal identity might be incompatible with various values related to desert, or even with treating differently self-sacrifice and other-sacrifice.

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    3. Keith Frankish‏ @keithfrankish Apr 16
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      I suspect that in such cases we'd easily be able to make compensating conceptual adjustments so that our valuing practices remaining substantially unaffected. The devil would be in the detail of course.

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    4. 𖤐 🔥Bryce 🔥𖤐‏ @NeuroYogacara Apr 16
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      I guess the question I would want to ask is: “why should we be so sure that our valuing practices are getting something right”. Perhaps free will compatibilism, for example, makes the kind of mistake that follows from holding fast to unjustified normative assumptions...

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    5. Keith Frankish‏ @keithfrankish Apr 16
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      Sure, we could rethink our valuing practices; I'm just doubting that science or metaphysics could require us to so. Values are, as it were, manifest image stuff.

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    6. 𖤐 🔥Bryce 🔥𖤐‏ @NeuroYogacara Apr 16
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      Replying to @keithfrankish @sergioten

      I guess you could say the same about phenomenal qualities, right?

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    7. Keith Frankish‏ @keithfrankish Apr 16
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      No. We already have wordly colours, smells, tastes, pains, etc in the MI. Their mental counterparts are theoretical posits which would belong to the SI if they belonged anywhere.

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    8. 𖤐 🔥Bryce 🔥𖤐‏ @NeuroYogacara Apr 16
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      Replying to @keithfrankish @sergioten

      And we already have worldly constraints on behavior, as well as internal systems that regulate our sensitivity to those comstraints. Why are you so certain that things are different in the ethical case?

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    9. Keith Frankish‏ @keithfrankish Apr 16
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      I'm not certain of anything! But I suspect that our ethical judgements (for the most part at least) do not presuppose answers to fundamental scientific and metaphysical questions. Eg everyday ascriptions of responsibility do not assume exemption from the causal nexus.

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    10. Sergio Tenenbaum‏ @sergioten Apr 16
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      Have you ever read Steward's "Metaphysics of Agency"? She argues that even animal agency is incompatible with determinism (but she also insist that determinism is a thesis in metaphyics, not physics, so this is a potential conflict with a metaphysical thesis, not with science).

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      Geoffrey Miller‏Verified account @primalpoly Apr 16
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      Evolution actively opposes 'determinism' in animal behavior, for good game-theoretic reasons: https://www.primalpoly.com/s/1997-protean-primates.pdf …

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