"among America’s 83 million Millennials, 24 million are sympathetic to poly ideals, 17 million have tried poly, and 4 million are currently poly—compared to 3 million who are gay/lesbian." Yes, it is more worth discussing because it is more common.https://quillette.com/2019/10/28/polyamory-is-growing-and-we-need-to-get-serious-about-it/ …
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"without having good role models, social norms, sexual scripts, or social support … Poly also lacks the legal status of being a protected minority, … open relationships incentivize people to stay healthy, fit, creative, and funny, because they’re always in the mating market."
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"the only societies that have ever succeeded in becoming large-scale technological civilizations were the ones that adopted monogamous marriage as the gold standard for long-term pair bonds and family formation."
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He says not need monogamy now re paternal certainty, STD cuts, & male sex inequality. "Many polyamorous people get married and raise kids. They can take advantage of all the commitment devices that help maintain long-term pair bonds, without buying into the sexual exclusivity."
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That's the key point that seems implausible to me. Sex tends to create emotional bonds, crowding out other bonds. Poly folks might be selected for weaker such effects, but the sign of such effects seem pretty universal to me.
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Replying to @robinhanson
This all depends on whether you think emotional bonds are zero sum. I mention the problem in discussing time & resource trade-offs. IMHO if we can love more than one kid, have more than one friend, etc., we might be able to sustain more than one relationship...
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Replying to @primalpoly @robinhanson
Is there any research on procreation and parental bonding in long term poly relationships? This is an area where I wonder how it would manage. I expect adults can negotiate sexual relationships with each other. I am not sure about parental/filial ones being as easy.
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Replying to @myusefulspare @robinhanson
There's very little research on that, and one big motive for writing this article was to try to spark more research on poly's long-term family implications.
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One more Q, if I may? Is there much interest in the poly community for "plural marriages"? The moral arguments on that will be fascinating. As for communal child-rearing, it has been practiced in some pre-industrial societies but I would be reluctant to map them onto modern ones.
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I see very little interest in legalizing plural marriage in poly culture -- it just seems way too complicated in terms of contractual agreements. But I could be wrong, and things could change.
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