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Psychology professor; wrote The Mating Mind, Spent, Mate, & Virtue Signaling. Agnostic centrist into evolution, sex, sentience, freedom & future.

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    Geoffrey Miller‏Verified account @primalpoly 24 Oct 2019
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    Moral psychology question: should the egg donor, who's actually related to the boy, have a say in all this?https://thefederalist.com/2019/10/24/why-its-probably-not-a-coincidence-that-the-mother-transing-her-7-year-old-isnt-biologically-related/#.XbGqwUWysis.facebook …

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      2. ΧΡΙΣΤΌΦΟΡΟΣ bɝːd‏ @CjgbVictoria 24 Oct 2019
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        There's a case: if we're fracturing the natural role of mother into parts—donor, gestator, social mother—natural justice suggests all get a say. Otherwise we're commodifying, that is, dehumanizing, fundamental social relations, as if we aren't already dehumanized enough.

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      3. Hotep Beauregard 👁‏ @MssrBeauregard 24 Oct 2019
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        That’s an interesting idea re: fracturing the mother role. I’m wrestling with this question and your comment is helping me sort it out. I wonder if that necessitates a hierarchy of interests/authority amongst the roles. Thanks for the insight!

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      2. Richard Harper‏ @harpersnotes 24 Oct 2019
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        Deep question. Many, many facets. (Who owns your DNA and the history of the HeLa cells; Libertarianism and the separation of family and State; Psychological adaptations for kin recognition; Daly and Wilson book; Etc. etc.)

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      3. Richard Harper‏ @harpersnotes 24 Oct 2019
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        (And .. compared to sperm donors is there a moral psychology difference here in how we psychologically value motherhood versus fatherhood?)

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      1. flabbergasted (Apocalypse Now, 2020)‏ @observeaddict 25 Oct 2019
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        Not unless you’re willing to legally give up closed adoptions too

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      2. joannes‏ @jan359180 24 Oct 2019
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        Yes. The father has the right and duty to defend his child.

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      3. omniai‏ @omniai 25 Oct 2019
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        That's not even what was asked.

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      1. Shut It Down (just the dumb parts)‏ @ShutItAIIDown 24 Oct 2019
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        Did @JonHaidt concoct this controversy? 🤔

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      1. Arrowshallow‏ @ShroomXXI 24 Oct 2019
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        No. The mother is the person who rears, loves and fights for her child, certainly not the egg layer.

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      2. omniai‏ @omniai 25 Oct 2019
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        This video dives into it, if you're interestedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvjHn6QEgh4 …

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