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Psychology professor; wrote The Mating Mind, Spent, Mate, & Virtue Signaling. Agnostic centrist into evolution, sex, sentience, freedom & future.

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    Geoffrey Miller‏Verified account @primalpoly 21 Jul 2019
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    In the 'Mate' book, we promoted the 'growth mindset' in a couple of pages as something worth cultivating. This massive new study suggests we were wrong. Growth mindset may not matter.https://twitter.com/Russwarne/status/1152857329181704192 …

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    Russell T. Warne  🇺🇸 🇨🇱 @Russwarne
    Just finished reading the big UK mindset training study. It's extremely well designed: ✅Randomized control study ✅Sample size >4000 ✅High treatment fidelity ✅High statistical power ✅Controlled for cluster sampling https://educationendowmentfoundation.org.uk/public/files/Projects/Evaluation_Reports/Changing_Mindsets.pdf …
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      2. Daniel Cañueto‏ @DanielCanueto 21 Jul 2019
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        My intuition is that growth mindset matters if you believe it matters. And a book like Mate is read by people predisposed to growth mindset. So, I see no problem in using the concept in the book, but rather in scientific justification to apply same mindset to everyone

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      3. Geoffrey Miller‏Verified account @primalpoly 21 Jul 2019
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        Yep. But, then it's basically just a placebo effect.

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      2. Russell T. Warne  🇺🇸 🇨🇱‏ @Russwarne 21 Jul 2019
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        In 2001, that was the best thing to say, given the evidence available at the time.

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      3. Russell T. Warne  🇺🇸 🇨🇱‏ @Russwarne 21 Jul 2019
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        When I started teaching in 2011, I taught mindsets. Everyone thought it was good science. It's only been in the past few years (when scientists started discovering characteristics of studies that fail to replicate) that mindset theory started looking shaky.

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      1. Tech Sergeant Kaplan‏ @Joirespecter 21 Jul 2019
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        Scott Alexander vindicated as usual: https://slatestarcodex.com/tag/growth-mindset/ … Also the comments here contain possibly of the greatest owns ever documented on the internet: http://noahpinionblog.blogspot.com/2015/04/fixed-mindsets.html …

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      1. John Greer‏ @JohnCGreer 22 Jul 2019
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        Thanks for updating. Refreshing.

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      1. Marjolaine Tremblay‏ @marjolainetrem4 21 Jul 2019
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        this is very interesting--goes against what a lot of us learned in intro psych courses!

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      2. Anthony Cutler‏ @anthonyncutler 21 Jul 2019
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        But what was the sampling frame/ recruitment process? "Sample Size >4000" and "High statistical power" are synonyms in this context.

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      3. Daniel Cañueto‏ @DanielCanueto 21 Jul 2019
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        A study can have high sample size but low power. E.g, very low conversion ratios.

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      1. AG  🇵🇱‏ @HyperboreaMind 21 Jul 2019
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        Mindset is a product of one inner-self, it cant be transferred by words. Just as Nietzsche said, a good teacher can only liberate what is one already has.

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