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Evolutionary psych professor; wrote some books. Into the deep past & far future, esp. genes, minds, civilizations, sex, freedom, families, & Effective Altruism.

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    Geoffrey Miller‏Verified account @primalpoly Jun 22

    What stretching is good for: - increasing 'stretch tolerance' What it's not good for: - increasing muscle length - warming up - improving performance - preventing injury, soreness, or contracture Great, simple, review of the science by @PainSci: https://www.painscience.com/articles/stretching.php …pic.twitter.com/g6bIeilwYC

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      1. Geoffrey Miller‏Verified account @primalpoly Jun 23

        So many people disagreeing without reading the article....

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      2. anne austin‏ @AAAAAAAnne Jun 22
        Replying to @primalpoly @EGPtony @PainSci

        Does stretching improve range of motion without discomfort? If it does, that is worth heaps!

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      3. Geoffrey Miller‏Verified account @primalpoly Jun 26
        Replying to @AAAAAAAnne @EGPtony @PainSci

        Yes! That's why I mentioned stretch tolerance, which is the key component of range of motion.

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      2. Jason Little‏ @jaslukas Jun 22
        Replying to @primalpoly @benshapiro @PainSci

        Absolutely untrue! There are advanced techniques now that are different then the standard 30 second hold or bounce stretch. As a rehab therapist I use stretching all the time to increase function. My patients gain flexibility and pain decreases.

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      3. Geoffrey Miller‏Verified account @primalpoly Jun 23
        Replying to @jaslukas @benshapiro @PainSci

        Read the article. It addresses these new methods.

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      4. Ryan Spark‏ @ryanspark1 Jun 23
        Replying to @primalpoly @jaslukas and

        Set out of office to: read the article

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      2. Kasper Laursen‏ @kasp260e Jun 23
        Replying to @primalpoly @benshapiro @PainSci

        Have you ever seen a lion stretch before hunting down a gazelle? No. Thought so.

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      3. EweCannotBSerous‏ @BSerous Jun 23
        Replying to @kasp260e @primalpoly and

        They just do it every single morning...pic.twitter.com/dWl9gD6aat

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      4. Geoffrey Miller‏Verified account @primalpoly Jun 23
        Replying to @BSerous @kasp260e and

        Increasing stretch tolerance.

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      5. EweCannotBSerous‏ @BSerous Jun 23
        Replying to @primalpoly @kasp260e and

        That doesnt change the fact they stretch multiple times a day... The question was, ever see a lion stretch before chasing a gazelle? No...i also don't see linebackers stretching before 3rd down. But both do stretch consistently

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      2. Glenn Ellmers‏ @write_g Jun 22
        Replying to @primalpoly @PainSci

        Too sweeping and dogmatic to be true, especially for dysfunctional and imbalanced sedentary folks. I don't know how much you squat, but if you sit all day and lift heavy without dis-inhibiting the hip flexors antagonistic to posterior chain you are inviting an injury.

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      3. Luke Kuza‏ @Kuzzza Jun 22
        Replying to @write_g @primalpoly @PainSci

        *Reads 20+ page article with studies* Nobody: Glenn: *Yeah it's too sweeping to be true*

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      4. Glenn Ellmers‏ @write_g Jun 23
        Replying to @Kuzzza @primalpoly @PainSci

        And every one of the studies showed exactly the same multiple results with a high degree of confidence? Highly unlikely. Most studies are narrow, limited, and tentative. You are too easily impressed by a long list of citations.

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      5. Luke Kuza‏ @Kuzzza Jun 23
        Replying to @write_g @primalpoly @PainSci

        "And every one...? High unlikely.". It's funny because you could answer your own question by reading the article and the studies but this shows you didn't and made a sweeping conclusion based on anecdotal evidence. Also, burden of proof is on you since you're making the claim.

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      6. Glenn Ellmers‏ @write_g Jun 23
        Replying to @Kuzzza @primalpoly @PainSci

        Did you read all the studies mentioned?

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      7. Luke Kuza‏ @Kuzzza Jun 23
        Replying to @write_g @primalpoly @PainSci

        I mean it's clear what you're trying to do here but I'll humor it. I did not read every single study but I picked a handful of them listed in the article and skimmed through the conclusions and methods and they seemed sound and to coincide.pic.twitter.com/pvbZSTidxZ

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      8. Glenn Ellmers‏ @write_g Jun 23
        Replying to @Kuzzza @primalpoly @PainSci

        Well, if Luke Kuza has skimmed a handful of the conclusions, that’s all I need! We can safely dismiss as totally and invariably useless a modality used by innumerable athletes, strength coaches, trainers, therapists, etc. Thanks for sharing your wisdom.

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      9. Geoffrey Miller‏Verified account @primalpoly Jun 23
        Replying to @write_g @Kuzzza @PainSci

        You're so right. Coaches, trainers, and therapists have never been wrong about any previous traditions they've followed for decades.

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      1. Vadym Zhyrov‏ @vadymzhyrov Jun 22
        Replying to @primalpoly @PainSci

        Idk about “Not good for for improving performance” part. In virtually every martial art, flexibility (achieved through stretching) is incredibly helpful.

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