I'd love to hear both of them tell us the top ten things they actually _like_ about women. Other than their bodies.
None of that is stuff they actually like _about_ women. It's all selfish benefits they can get _from_ women.
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If you can't look out for yourself how can you look out for others? Pretending that you don't want sex from women isn't virtuous its dishonest. Obviously sex is not the ONLY thing men want but its the foundation of healthy relationships. You would know if you read his work.
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We are all self interested. Ultimately we serve only the propagation of our genetic sequences. Not even from our own bodies necessarily. You should know that?
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