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Psychology professor; wrote The Mating Mind, Spent, Mate, & Virtue Signaling. Agnostic centrist into evolution, sex, sentience, freedom & future.

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    1. Geoffrey Miller‏Verified account @primalpoly 27 Mar 2019
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      In 'The Lord of the Rings', the _real_ hero was

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    2. A Aron‏ @Casbone 27 Mar 2019
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      Aragorn or someone else. Facing and summoning the dead men of the mountain to aid in the flank of Corsair ships that surely would have meant the demise of Middle Earth even after their initial battle at Mina's Tirith.

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    3. Geoffrey Miller‏Verified account @primalpoly 27 Mar 2019
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      'The Return of the King' is literally about Aragorn returning to Gondor as king. Not about Samwise returning to the Shire as a gardener.

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    4. Eliezer Yudkowsky‏Verified account @ESYudkowsky 27 Mar 2019
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      You... might want to reread? The book ends with Sam seeing Frodo off into the West, returning to Rose, and saying "I'm back." Not with Aragorn's coronation.

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      Geoffrey Miller‏Verified account @primalpoly 27 Mar 2019
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      I'm referring to the title, not the ending.

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        2. Eliezer Yudkowsky‏Verified account @ESYudkowsky 27 Mar 2019
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          Well they can't exactly call it "Sam Returns Home", that would be a spoiler. More seriously, a writer would tend to pay more attention to choices and endings than to story titles if they don't match - the latter is telling-not-showing.

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        3. jordan‏ @bobfranklin31 27 Mar 2019
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          “Return of the Gardner”

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        2. Geoff‏ @SuttonGL 27 Mar 2019
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          Replying to @primalpoly @ESYudkowsky @Casbone

          "Return of the King" was chosen by the publisher without Tolkien's input. He wanted the last part (of 6, not 3) to be called "The End of the Third Age."

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        3. base idea-cur‏ @abecedarius 27 Mar 2019
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          Not quite: Tolkien did offer the individual book titles when the publisher asked for them, but they were an afterthought and he wasn't very happy with them.

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        1. Chase Patterson‏ @ChaseWPatterson 27 Mar 2019
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          Replying to @primalpoly @ESYudkowsky @Casbone

          Yes, Sam is the King. The opening line of the Fellowship's Prologue: "This book is largely concerned with Hobbits." Upon his return Sam literally lead the Shire for 49 years until he left for The Undying Lands. The Red Book was created by Sam's decedents.

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