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Psychology professor; wrote The Mating Mind, Spent, Mate, & Virtue Signaling. Agnostic centrist into evolution, sex, sentience, freedom & future.

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    1. Joel Fish‏ @joelwatsonfish 18 Feb 2019
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      In an attempt to get more familiarity with Mathematica and some stochastic modeling, and to rebut some of NNT's complaints about IQ being bogus, I started working on modeling a gambling economy to study "wealth" and "IQ". Here are a few preliminary results.pic.twitter.com/5wo0aIZqy4

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    2. Joel Fish‏ @joelwatsonfish 18 Feb 2019
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      I'm not sure why mean-wealth v. IQ is so non-linear. At the moment I think it might be due to the number of rounds in a history and the fact that players aren't willing to lose more than 20% of their wealth in a single game. I'll have to tinker with those values.

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    3. Joel Fish‏ @joelwatsonfish 18 Feb 2019
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      Mostly though, I think NNT ends up refuting himself since he knows that 1) Wealth has much to do w/ randomness 2) A better notion of a person's wealth is to average over all their alternative life-histories 3) This signal that remains after averaging covaries positively w/ IQ

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    4. Copybook heading respecter‏ @CapHoratius 18 Feb 2019
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      Replying to @joelwatsonfish

      You can see this pretty clearly in real data (NLSY79). First graph is just income v AFQT, and obviously there is a lot of variation due to random chance, other factors. Second is average income of the sample grouped by IQ percentile, removing the noise.pic.twitter.com/gui6xBGbJk

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    5. Joel Fish‏ @joelwatsonfish 18 Feb 2019
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      Yeah, as I was posting, I realized there's a point that NNT made that I didn't test though, which was how possible "blow-ups" affect the results over long periods. I think this is related to his "intelligence = survivability" claim. I'll have to tinker with this some more.

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    6. Copybook heading respecter‏ @CapHoratius 18 Feb 2019
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      I'm not sure it's worth taking his points too seriously. They seem to be either completely trivial (other things affect income as well), completely imaginary (consider a function...)) or completely anecdotal (I once knew a guy).

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    7. Timofey Pnin‏ @pnin1957 18 Feb 2019
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      He wrote somewhere that if you sampled Mexicans and asked about their wealth, the data would be useless unless Carlos Slim was included. Only extreme observations hold any interest to him. This puts him at odds with social science which is concerned with more typical experiences.

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    8. Copybook heading respecter‏ @CapHoratius 18 Feb 2019
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      Replying to @pnin1957 @joelwatsonfish

      I have a couple of his books and have a fair bit of sympathy for his criticisms of social science and finance. More than anything though his IQ stuff just seemed lazily done, like he wasn't all that interested in whether or not people understood what he was talking about.

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      Geoffrey Miller‏Verified account @primalpoly 18 Feb 2019
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      Replying to @CapHoratius @pnin1957 @joelwatsonfish

      Also Taleb blocked every actual IQ researcher who disagree with his delusionally amateurish 'critique' of IQ.

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        1. Copybook heading respecter‏ @CapHoratius 18 Feb 2019
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          Indeed 😀https://twitter.com/CapHoratius/status/1097517674668703745 …

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          Have you read his replies? The guy is inundated with people telling him how brilliant he is and how nobody understands how deep a thinker he is, and he blocks anybody who disagrees with him. He has no reliable feedback mechanism to tell him when what he posts is complete guff.
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