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Psychology professor; wrote The Mating Mind, Spent, Mate, & Virtue Signaling. Agnostic centrist into evolution, sex, sentience, freedom & future.

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    1. Geoffrey Miller‏Verified account @primalpoly 6 Feb 2019
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      Seems like a better place to start in understanding 'men's health disparities' (e.g. dying younger) is to acknowledge that sexual selection can explain why males die younger in almost all mammal species....

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    2. Dr. Tyler Bradstreet‏ @tylerbradstreet 6 Feb 2019
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      I would prefer a socioecological approach to health disparities, as compared to bioloigical essentialism, to identify more contributing factors.

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    3. Gregory Gorelik‏ @GregoryGorelik 6 Feb 2019
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      You're creating a false dichotomy between socioecological and biological influences. Testosterone--the long-term contributor to male mortality and morbidity--does not work in a vacuum. Biology organized and moderates socioecological influences.

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    4. Dr. Tyler Bradstreet‏ @tylerbradstreet 6 Feb 2019
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      Replying to @GregoryGorelik @primalpoly and

      The socioecological model takes into account biological influences. I specifically recommended that model to account for biology.

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    5. Gregory Gorelik‏ @GregoryGorelik 6 Feb 2019
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      Replying to @tylerbradstreet @primalpoly and

      Then why does “testosterone” appear nowhere in the guidelines? Why, out of more than 400 references, do only four mention either hormones or anything brain or “neuro”-related?

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    6. Dr. Tyler Bradstreet‏ @tylerbradstreet 6 Feb 2019
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      I did not write the guidelines, nor am I currently speaking for them. The reply was about identifying health disparities. You misrepresented my proposed model, and then glossed over that fact by instead offering a strawman argument in return.

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    7. Gregory Gorelik‏ @GregoryGorelik 6 Feb 2019
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      Replying to @tylerbradstreet @primalpoly and

      If the socioecological model incorporates biological influences on mortality, then great! But the topic of this thread is the APA guidelines, which is my main target for criticism. I'm not strawmanning you; I am reverting the conversation back to the topic at hand.

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    8. Dr. Tyler Bradstreet‏ @tylerbradstreet 6 Feb 2019
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      Replying to @GregoryGorelik @primalpoly and

      Again, I didn't contribute to any portion of the guidelines. My understanding is that the authors provided evidence based feedback to criticisms about the perceived lack of biological research, and it was deemed sufficient. 90% of @APA council voted yes to approve them.

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    9. Gregory Gorelik‏ @GregoryGorelik 6 Feb 2019
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      Replying to @tylerbradstreet @primalpoly and

      @CJFerguson1111 wrote an excellent review (https://www.scribd.com/document/385347642/Review-of-Practice-Guidelines-for-Men-and-Boys?fbclid=IwAR0N8kkWLcVn57W_ZCtx9wgcSWrTKgrQw_eGncJnhDo5a9IeSv899KXCZC0 …), but his suggestions were ignored. The point is that, as a body, the APA appears to be highly ideological. And, yes, I acknowledge that you didn't write the guidelines.

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    10. Dr. Tyler Bradstreet‏ @tylerbradstreet 6 Feb 2019
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      Replying to @GregoryGorelik @primalpoly and

      How do you know they were ignored? When was this written? Did he provide his comments during the @APA public comment period on the guidelines where the authors could/have to address his concerns in writing?

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      Geoffrey Miller‏Verified account @primalpoly 6 Feb 2019
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      Replying to @tylerbradstreet @GregoryGorelik and

      We had no idea @APA was writing these guidelines, or soliciting comments, until after they came out. I don't remember any calls for feedback being circulated through the scientific societies that take evolutionary, hormonal, or genetic approaches to sex differences.

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        1. Dr. Tyler Bradstreet‏ @tylerbradstreet 6 Feb 2019
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          Yeah, I can't speak to that comment period process specifically...but I know they do it for all guidelines (and policies, I think).

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        2. Dr. Tyler Bradstreet‏ @tylerbradstreet 6 Feb 2019
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        3. Dr. Tyler Bradstreet‏ @tylerbradstreet 6 Feb 2019
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          Replying to @tylerbradstreet @primalpoly and

          Again, I don't know how these calls are distributed, however

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