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Evolutionary psych professor; wrote some books. Into the deep past & far future, esp. genes, minds, civilizations, sex, freedom, families, & Effective Altruism.

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    1. Geoffrey Miller‏Verified account @primalpoly Oct 27

      The European Union has given up on free speech, and made it a crime to criticize Islam. Is it a crime to criticize Christianity? Of course not.https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/117135/persecution-elisabeth-sabaditsch-wolff-jamie-glazov#.W9R_rg6XjKU.twitter …

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      Geoffrey Miller‏Verified account @primalpoly Oct 27

      PS Since the 2009 Treaty of Lisbon, the EU underwent 'accession' to the ECHR's rulings, which means every country in the EU is legally bound by the ECHR decision in this case, if I understand correctly. https://www.echr.coe.int/Pages/home.aspx?p=basictexts/accessionEU&c …

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        2. mumbogumshoe‏ @mumbogumshoe Oct 27
          Replying to @primalpoly

          You don't. 1. Every country has signed the ECHR anyway, so Lisbon has nothing to do with it. 2. This creates or changes no rule for signatory states to follow. The court decided not to interfere with a particular court ruling in a member state, as it has before.

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        3. mumbogumshoe‏ @mumbogumshoe Oct 27
          Replying to @mumbogumshoe @primalpoly

          Let me repeat: no general rule was created. The "blasphemy law" is a national one, is religiously neutral, has been on the books for decades. The court decided, as it did in 1994, not to strike it down. This has no influence on what any other country does.

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        4. Mosseon‏ @Mosseon Oct 27
          Replying to @mumbogumshoe @primalpoly

          so what does the echr do, is it just a means of appeasement for outrage groups or does it actually step in to defend human rights?

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        5. Mosseon‏ @Mosseon Oct 27
          Replying to @Mosseon @mumbogumshoe @primalpoly

          in either case it doesn't look that great, on one hand you have an apathetic government that has no voting ties to it's population, on the other you have tier'd human rights designed to make some groups more equal than others

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        6. mumbogumshoe‏ @mumbogumshoe Oct 27
          Replying to @Mosseon @primalpoly

          Criticize all you want but get the facts straight. This doesn't make one group more equal, it applies a neutral rule equally. The same national law has been used to "protect" other religious groups, esp. Catholics, before.

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        7. mumbogumshoe‏ @mumbogumshoe Oct 27
          Replying to @mumbogumshoe @Mosseon @primalpoly

          There's all kinds of reasons why you can criticise a law that makes it illegal to insult religion. However, you can't say that this applies only to Islam, or that it's anything new because it doesn't and it isn't.

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        1. Wenjie‏ @ye_wenjie3 Oct 28
          Replying to @primalpoly

          Wenjie Retweeted Chris Kavanagh

          this is not true-- retraction?https://twitter.com/C_Kavanagh/status/1056365212087939072 …

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          Chris Kavanagh @C_Kavanagh
          Great thread contextualising the blasphemy law case. It is horrifying how many Western democracies retain these kinds of laws. https://twitter.com/ClaireBerlinski/status/1056032703211016192 …
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        1. Henry Beardsell‏ @HenryBeardsell Oct 27
          Replying to @primalpoly

          They're not even judges

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        1. 300Spartans‏ @scottho03862553 Oct 27
          Replying to @primalpoly

          Do people in Britain still really want to stay in this dictatorial sharia bound mess known as the EU?

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        1. Elaine40‏ @Elaine4013 Oct 27
          Replying to @primalpoly

          No, it's more complicated than that although it is an appalling ruling. Becoming a legal obligation, entering into force - all meaningless European law gobbledygook. The EU itself has not yet acceded to the ECHR.

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        2. Denis‏ @isolaciarrai Oct 27
          Replying to @primalpoly

          You understand correctly.

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        3. Denis‏ @isolaciarrai Oct 28
          Replying to @isolaciarrai @primalpoly

          EConHR forms part of the legal hinterland, the acquis communitaire, which all present an future MS are obliged to accept. @Vermeullarmine can explain this more fully.

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