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Evolutionary psych professor; wrote some books. Into the deep past & far future, esp. genes, minds, civilizations, sex, freedom, families, & Effective Altruism.

New Mexico
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    Geoffrey Miller‏Verified account @primalpoly Oct 27

    The European Union has given up on free speech, and made it a crime to criticize Islam. Is it a crime to criticize Christianity? Of course not.https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/117135/persecution-elisabeth-sabaditsch-wolff-jamie-glazov#.W9R_rg6XjKU.twitter …

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      1. Geoffrey Miller‏Verified account @primalpoly Oct 27

        PS Since the 2009 Treaty of Lisbon, the EU underwent 'accession' to the ECHR's rulings, which means every country in the EU is legally bound by the ECHR decision in this case, if I understand correctly. https://www.echr.coe.int/Pages/home.aspx?p=basictexts/accessionEU&c …

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      2. Phil‏ @phillyA96R9TO Oct 27
        Replying to @primalpoly

        Here in Ireland today, we just had a referendum to remove the blasphemy law along with a presidential election. So, now as it is with EU directives, that will supersede Irish law. 🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤷‍♂️

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      3. AE DAEDROTH‏ @GasInTheHole Oct 27
        Replying to @phillyA96R9TO @primalpoly

        Nope! Some other people here clarified it as well, but the European Court of Human Rights (not EU, mind!) did not rule 'blasphemy' a crime - only that the Austrian court ruled correctly (where blasphemy is a crime (when it comes to all religions), still, for some reason).

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      4. Geoffrey Miller‏Verified account @primalpoly Oct 27
        Replying to @GasInTheHole @phillyA96R9TO

        In other words, the European Court of Human Rights just ruled that free speech is not a basic human right that binds their member countries -- member countries can curtail it however they see fit if the speech allegedly risks offending some group. Thanks for clarifying ...

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      5. AE DAEDROTH‏ @GasInTheHole Oct 27
        Replying to @primalpoly @phillyA96R9TO

        Or, in other words: the European Court of Human Rights just ruled that member countries have the autonomy to have their democratically elected officials define these laws as they see fit. Your issue should lie with Austrian lawmakers, not the ECHR (not the EU, btw!).

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      1. mumbogumshoe‏ @mumbogumshoe Oct 27
        Replying to @primalpoly

        1. This wasn't the EU, the ECHR is not an EU institution. 2. The ECHR decided not to strike down a ruling by an Austrian court in line with case law from the 90s that was established when the same Austrian law was challanged by someone who was fined for insulting Catholicism.

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      1. Zetetic Advocate‏ @ZeteticAdvocate Oct 27
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        Scarier still is the American Tech Giants moving towards a European model of what’s acceptable speech. They seem to be in lock step with the EU’s unconscious suicidal desire to end open democratic civilization.

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      2. Darren Doesn't Write Much‏ @Darren_B_Lane Oct 27
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        And I think it's relevant that the criticism of Islam was based on data which most Muslims generally believe to be true - that Mohammed married a grade-school age girl and consummated the marriage while she was still a pre-teen.

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      1. Pawel Kaminski‏ @kam1inski Oct 27
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        If there is one thing to strengthen the far right movements around Europe, it's this one. Chapeau bas.

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      1. Jeffrey Groom‏ @BigsbyGroom Oct 27
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        South Park was literally years ahead of the soft police state curve. God Bless them.

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      1. Michelle Diane Larden‏ @DianeLarden Oct 27
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        Use this term and they can't do jackshit about it for "Islam" translated to English = "Submission" New term to get the message across "Submission The Filth Of Oppression " = "Islam The Filth Of Oppression"!

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      1. Jan Sammer‏ @pictorex Oct 27
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        A shocking verdict and a binding one, not subject to further appeal. When the European Court of Justice rules that shariah law overrides the European Charter of Fundamental Rights and that Islamic blasphemy laws are enforceable, you know we have reached the point of no return.

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      1. Nylifer‏ @zofer11 Oct 27
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        Nylifer Retweeted Claire Berlinski

        https://twitter.com/ClaireBerlinski/status/1056032703211016192?s=19 …

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        Claire BerlinskiVerified account @ClaireBerlinski
        Hi @Aayan, how are you? It's been a long time since I last saw you. I hope you're well. I spent all day thinking about this ruling yesterday. I disagree with you. The ruling is not at all what I want, but I concluded it's legally correct. Here's why: https://twitter.com/Ayaan/status/1055984413643685889 …
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      1. Cwic‏ @mormonado Oct 27
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        EU to the people: 'you will do what we want'.

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      1. Jeep Dy‏ @Dy78073330 Oct 28
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        Hold freedom of speech in the name of religious freedom promotes the so-called religion of peace. The western will bitterly regret it. #ExMuslim #Christians

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      1. Erik Israel‏ @scottie1479 Oct 27
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        This isn't the EU and you'll be glad to know that yes the same applies to Christianity. Depending on where in Europe you are of course.https://www.article19.org/resources/poland-blasphemy-conviction-pop-star-violates-free-expression/ …

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