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Evolutionary psych professor; wrote some books. Into the deep past & far future, esp. genes, minds, civilizations, sex, freedom, families, & Effective Altruism.

New Mexico
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    Geoffrey Miller‏Verified account @primalpoly Oct 24

    Everybody's demanding that everybody else disavow the use of violence. If you're a libertarian like me, you already believe in the 'Non-Aggression Principle': you never initiate the use of force against anyone. Might be nice if other political groups adopted the NAP....pic.twitter.com/sOLhjQD30j

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      2. Will Westcott  🦃 🍁 🍂‏ @westland_will Oct 24
        Replying to @primalpoly

        Lol, people still believe in NAP?

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      3. Geoffrey Miller‏Verified account @primalpoly Oct 24
        Replying to @westland_will

        You have something better?

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      4. American Oddity‏ @Sargon4PM Oct 24
        Replying to @primalpoly @westland_will

        Would you ever break the NAP personally? I would for my loved ones, to neutralize a potential threat, but less likely for myself.

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      2. Ronald D. Potts  🇺🇲‏ @RonaldDPotts1 Oct 24
        Replying to @primalpoly

        I have made this point quite often lately. If we were to adopt this as a society we would drastically reverse course.

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      3. Ronald D. Potts  🇺🇲‏ @RonaldDPotts1 Oct 24
        Replying to @RonaldDPotts1 @primalpoly

        If one really does the work on this ideal they will find, firstly, that it's completely legitimate. Also, once the ideal is full embodied, it drastically improves one's life in all aspects/ relationships. You realize you have no right to take from anyone and they toward you.

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      4. Ronald D. Potts  🇺🇲‏ @RonaldDPotts1 Oct 24
        Replying to @RonaldDPotts1 @primalpoly

        You become thankful for anything at all that anyone does for you, because nobody, anywhere has to do anything for you. Then, ppl like you and start wanting to do things for you. Win-win.

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      2. Isaiah‏ @ibeckermayer Oct 24
        Replying to @primalpoly

        What justifies the non-aggression-principle? Why is it a principle and not just your personal preference?

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      3. Porter Burkett‏ @porterburkett12 Oct 24
        Replying to @ibeckermayer @primalpoly

        Self-ownership, including the ownership of your own labor and, by extension, the products of that labor, is the most basic human right and the basis for the rights to life, liberty, and property. Any infringement upon these rights is inherently immoral.

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      4. Isaiah‏ @ibeckermayer Oct 24
        Replying to @porterburkett12 @primalpoly

        I agree, but *why* is that true? If somebody says “I don’t believe your conception of human rights is true”, what argument do you have?

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      5. Porter Burkett‏ @porterburkett12 Oct 24
        Replying to @ibeckermayer @primalpoly

        It’s simply a philosophy. I could ask that same person “Why don’t you believe each individual owns him/herself?” and I don’t think they would be able to formulate an answer. Self-ownership is one of those “self-evident” truths Jefferson wrote about, as I see it.

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      6. Isaiah‏ @ibeckermayer Oct 24
        Replying to @porterburkett12 @primalpoly

        I think you’re really close to a fully justified answer but not quite there. The issue is that it could be true that self ownership isn’t justified, so therefore it’s not “self evident”

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      7. Isaiah‏ @ibeckermayer Oct 24
        Replying to @ibeckermayer @porterburkett12 @primalpoly

        What can’t be true, however, is that reason is unjustified. Reason is what justifies all valid knowledge, so if it weren’t valid we couldn’t know it (by what rationale?)

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      8. Isaiah‏ @ibeckermayer Oct 24
        Replying to @ibeckermayer @porterburkett12 @primalpoly

        Reason is “self-evident”, or axiomatic, because to even question its validity one must tacitly accept it (what sort of answer could the questioner be looking for?)

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      9. Isaiah‏ @ibeckermayer Oct 24
        Replying to @ibeckermayer @porterburkett12 @primalpoly

        The non-aggression principle is downstream from that axiom. You should check out this book if you're interested:https://reasonandliberty.com/rl 

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      1. James (Last Name)‏ @iStillLikeBeer_ Oct 24
        Replying to @primalpoly

        Yeah but if you don't disavow, how do we know what team you're on?

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      1. Ryan  💭 🤑 💰 ✌🏻 ☮️‏ @RyanLiberty92 Oct 24
        Replying to @primalpoly

        Are you an anarchist / anarcho-capitalist yet or should I ask again in 6 months?

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      1. shane hawk‏ @shanehawkk Oct 24
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        They must first forgo their Hobbesian concept of the preemptive strike

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      1. fareed‏ @dz__p Oct 24
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        wait geoff were you this kid??pic.twitter.com/vui0Yjeqs7

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      1. AnarchoOptimist‏ @AnarchoOptimist Oct 24
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        You're a voluntarist?

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