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Evolutionary psych professor; wrote some books. Into the deep past & far future, esp. genes, minds, civilizations, sex, freedom, families, & Effective Altruism.

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    1. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 23
      Replying to @PsychRabble @Eric_Dykstra @primalpoly

      I'm going to go ahead and say yes, because the costs to saying yes seem minimal.

      2 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
    2. Eric Dykstra‏ @Eric_Dykstra Oct 23
      Replying to @Noahpinion @PsychRabble @primalpoly

      So the future is _so_ uncertain that trying to avoid catastrophe is as futile as waiting for unicorns to save us. But also you're completely certain that the United States will continue with its exact same borders until it ceases to exist?

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    3. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 23
      Replying to @Eric_Dykstra @PsychRabble @primalpoly

      Secession wouldn't avoid a catastrophe, it would cause one. And in fact would be one.

      3 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
    4. Lee Jussim‏ @PsychRabble Oct 23
      Replying to @Noahpinion @Eric_Dykstra @primalpoly

      Why do you think that? (honest q; history of broken up large countries is mixed rather than disastrous...).

      3 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    5. Geoffrey Miller‏Verified account @primalpoly Oct 23
      Replying to @PsychRabble @Noahpinion @Eric_Dykstra

      The US did OK after seceding from the British Empire IIRC.

      3 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
    6. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 23
      Replying to @primalpoly @PsychRabble @Eric_Dykstra

      Yeah because it was a big contiguous landmass seceding from an island that was an ocean away.

      3 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    7. Lee Jussim‏ @PsychRabble Oct 23
      Replying to @Noahpinion @primalpoly @Eric_Dykstra

      Ukraine/Kazakhistan/Uzbekistan, etc... 1918: Austria, Hungary, Roumania, Yugo.. Czech, Slovakia

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    8. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 23
      Replying to @PsychRabble @primalpoly @Eric_Dykstra

      All irrelevant to the current situation!

      4 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    9. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 23
      Replying to @Noahpinion @PsychRabble and

      ...which of course you already know full well, having participated in this stupid discussion for many minutes on end now. You're too smart to do the "cycle back to old refuted arguments" thing for any purpose other than trolling. ;-)

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    10. Ben‏ @amatueradult Oct 23
      Replying to @Noahpinion @PsychRabble and

      They're not trolling. They just don't want to accept your points because it kills their fantasy of a secession in America.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      Geoffrey Miller‏Verified account @primalpoly Oct 23
      Replying to @amatueradult @Noahpinion and

      I don't necessarily _want_ a secession. I just don't think we need to catastrophize about it. Borders change. Countries redefine themselves. People and civilizations go on.

      9:13 PM - 23 Oct 2018
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        2. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 23
          Replying to @primalpoly @amatueradult and

          It's just that in our current situation, our big geographical divide isn't regional; it's urban/rural. America's blue cities need its red countryside to be economically viable, and vice versa.

          1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
        3. mach nine‏ @alegw Oct 23
          Replying to @Noahpinion @primalpoly and

          This is true globally btw

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        2. Eric Dykstra‏ @Eric_Dykstra Oct 23
          Replying to @primalpoly @amatueradult and

          Which do you think will happen first, the US changes its borders in a significant way, or the US ceases to exist? I'd say the first is much more likely, even though people focus on the second more. (and of course, both are very unlikely to happen in any specific time frame)

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        3. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 23
          Replying to @Eric_Dykstra @primalpoly and

          Both would happen right around the same time if either happened, I predict.

          0 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
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        1. Ben‏ @amatueradult Oct 23
          Replying to @primalpoly @Noahpinion and

          The +/- analysis of a secession is fair and interesting. I'm saying the perception of the probability of succession being anywhere but extremely low is being caused by catastrophizing about current circumstances.

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