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Geoffrey Miller
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Evolutionary psych professor; wrote some books. Into the deep past & far future, esp. genes, minds, civilizations, sex, freedom, families, & Effective Altruism.

New Mexico
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    Geoffrey Miller‏Verified account @primalpoly Oct 23

    Bad: arguing with everyone who seems wrong. Good: arguing with people whose minds could be changed. Better: arguing with people whose minds could be changed by you. Best: arguing with people who could change your mind for the better.

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      2. Vitalik Non-giver of Ether‏Verified account @VitalikButerin Oct 23
        Replying to @primalpoly

        Disagree! Publicly refuting arguments that are wrong has important social value in convincing the yet-undecided silent majority. But it's definitely the case that not all argument is productive in this way and there's an art to being effective.

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      3. Brad Laurie‏ @Brad_Laurie Oct 23
        Replying to @VitalikButerin @primalpoly

        Vitalik, I completely agree that qualified & educated arguments are productive, but as u wrote, there's 'an art to being effective', & so it behooves us not to 'argue' for best effect. Instead, we civilly refute, discuss, debate etc, so that listeners are provided a rounded case

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      2. James Tiberius Stone‏ @Evolving_Ego Oct 23
        Replying to @primalpoly

        If you want me to argue with you, you have to post something I disagree with. This ain't it.

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      3. Arthur Dent‏ @ArthurCDent Oct 23
        Replying to @Evolving_Ego @primalpoly

        This is my problem - I follow too many clever people. I *want* to have a good argument, but they’re too damn well informed and reasonable!

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      1. Patrick Lee Miller‏ @Plato4Now Oct 23
        Replying to @primalpoly

        Bestest: doing something good or making something beautiful, bypassing argument altogether.

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      2. Paul Hundred‏ @paul_hundred Oct 23
        Replying to @primalpoly

        Go on Chapo

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      3. Victor Rivera  🎄 ☃️ 🎅‏ @cognitivicta Oct 23
        Replying to @paul_hundred

        pic.twitter.com/8K3TjIpcLD

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      1. Regan Carver‏ @regancarver Oct 23
        Replying to @primalpoly

        Somewhere on this spectrum is arguing with someone whose mind cannot be changed when the argument may change the mind of a listener

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      1.  🦇 🖤 💀 👻卂ntiҜripkean 💧 ➡️ ❄️ 🍑‏ @AntiKripkean Oct 23
        Replying to @primalpoly

        I'm personally okay with arguing with some wrong people even if their minds are unlikely to be changed if it's also on the internet since people reading the conversation could change their minds.

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      2. josh deets‏ @holdfastdeets Oct 23
        Replying to @primalpoly

        Currently not easy to find good/better/beat folks in Texas, so I don’t argue lol

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      3. Joe Cormane 🇺🇸 🏳️‍🌈 🦃‏ @cubsfantx Oct 23
        Replying to @holdfastdeets @primalpoly

        Not to mention I like Better best because Better leads to a better baseline to the benefit of all whereas bringing up the Betters to best has smaller incremental benefits

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      4. Joe Cormane 🇺🇸 🏳️‍🌈 🦃‏ @cubsfantx Oct 23
        Replying to @cubsfantx @holdfastdeets @primalpoly

        But that’s an off the cuff reaction - I may be wrong!

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      5. josh deets‏ @holdfastdeets Oct 23
        Replying to @cubsfantx @primalpoly

        That’s some Dr Suess shit right there

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      1. Zetetic Advocate‏ @ZeteticAdvocate Oct 23
        Replying to @primalpoly

        Which means you almost need to engage with everyone because one seldom knows before hand if the interlocutor claims membership with the anointed, with the angels, with the trying, or with the damned.

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      1. Slomo McBragg‏ @John_Sadena Oct 24
        Replying to @primalpoly

        Bester: Hive mind.

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      1. Tad Mikowski‏ @OtomBomb Oct 23
        Replying to @primalpoly

        Best-est: winning the argument with your credit card provider to forgive the charges

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      1. Paul J Blessing‏ @PaulJBlessing1 Oct 23
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        Errare humanum est

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