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Evolutionary psych professor; wrote some books. Into the deep past & far future, esp. genes, minds, civilizations, sex, freedom, families, & Effective Altruism.

New Mexico
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    Geoffrey Miller‏Verified account @primalpoly Oct 19

    Some people think all U.S. adult citizens should vote. Others think only rational & well-informed citizens should. What % of U.S. adult citizens do you think should vote?

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      2. Morgan Johnson‏ @J45320405Morgan Oct 19
        Replying to @primalpoly

        0%, representatives should be chosen at random like jury duty. No one who is prepared to run for office should be considered.

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      3. Dave Smith‏ @dave_smith_to Oct 19
        Replying to @J45320405Morgan @primalpoly

        Sortition. The Athenians did that. Senate should be selected by sortition. "Representatives" should be elected, obviously.

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      4. Morgan Johnson‏ @J45320405Morgan Oct 19
        Replying to @dave_smith_to @primalpoly

        Agree. Lords here in the UK and Senate in the USA should be replaced by people's legislators selected by sortition.

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      2. Office Drone‏ @officedrone206 Oct 19
        Replying to @primalpoly

        I've no problem with everyone voting: should a population chose to be uninformed or misinformed then that should be reflected on in the election results. You'll find out quickly if a society has given up on itself by those election results.

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      1. Kevin Meier‏ @KevinMeier4 Oct 19
        Replying to @primalpoly

        Picked 51-75, which is close to what we have now in Fed generals. US would be greatly improved if we had more turn out in PRIMARIES. It's just party activists voting, maybe 15% if lucky. Gives illusion of "popular will" but is just party hack choices. More voting in primaries!

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      1. Mmmm‏ @FlavorEcho Oct 19
        Replying to @primalpoly

        Any restrictions, however well intended, would eventually be gamed.

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      2. Matt Ball‏ @MattBall16 Oct 19
        Replying to @primalpoly

        Love this poll. I truly only think it's less than 25% but I thought small #'s could form their own little in-group leading to tyranny. So I went with 25-50%. Think about how many uninformed votes there are!? So many. What's the best way measure proficiency? @davidowen_sd

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      3. David Owen‏ @davidowen_sd Oct 19
        Replying to @MattBall16 @primalpoly

        I can’t say. Too many subjects. Take something like nuclear energy or obesity.. how many people, even with PhDs in STEM, can speak with authority on these issues? The best we can hope for is good schools and meritocracy

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      2. Ronald D. Potts  🇺🇲‏ @RonaldDPotts1 Oct 19
        Replying to @primalpoly

        That's an interesting question and I have some opinions on it, but given the limited nature of the poll itself I'm gonna have to vote 75%+.

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      3. Scott Johnson‏ @Strong0pinions Oct 19
        Replying to @RonaldDPotts1 @primalpoly

        It's a nuanced question. If you vote 75%+ you're advocating for uninformed voters. Any other vote is a personal estimate as to the % of rational, informed Americans.

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      4. Ronald D. Potts  🇺🇲‏ @RonaldDPotts1 Oct 19
        Replying to @Strong0pinions @primalpoly

        I am, I think, in favor of some sort of earning the right to vote. I think there needs to be some "skin in the game" factor to voting. I hesitate to make a simple % statement, though.

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      1. DCe| Z8‏ @Z8zFree8 Oct 19
        Replying to @primalpoly

        Results are skewed. Pro-voters are more likely to vote, in your vote.

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      1. The Principled Pragmatist‏ @principledpragm Oct 19
        Replying to @primalpoly

        The polity is not well served simply by having more people vote. It is served when informed, knowledgeable people vote. Voting is a right, not a responsibility. We are ill served when large numbers of un/misinformed, apathetic people vote — or when illegals & dead people vote.

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      2. Drew Baye‏ @DrewBaye Oct 19
        Replying to @primalpoly

        Active military, veterans, and property owners ought to be able to vote.

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      3. Ryan‏ @IAmUrOpiate28 Oct 19
        Replying to @DrewBaye @primalpoly

        I think I see where you’re going here, however I think this is Better idea: citizenship should be earned, citizenship shouldn’t be a birth right, especially with all the privilege being born in a western country gives you.

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      4. Jonathan Olson‏ @telephotic Oct 19
        Replying to @IAmUrOpiate28 @DrewBaye @primalpoly

        But, property ownership is a good way to show you've earned the right to vote (maturity, stake in country's future, etc.)

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      2. Andrea Kuszewski  🧠‏Verified account @AndreaKuszewski Oct 19
        Replying to @primalpoly

        Who decides what’s rational?

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      2. Brandon Lutz‏ @LutzStrong Oct 19
        Replying to @primalpoly

        If we had the kind of society where government was limited in its scope over what it could do to citizens, the above would probably be irrelevant.

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      3. Fallopian Tube‏ @FallopianTube23 Oct 19
        Replying to @LutzStrong @primalpoly

        I don’t wan’t to limit our governments’s ability to provide health care and a full education.

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      4. Brandon Lutz‏ @LutzStrong Oct 19
        Replying to @FallopianTube23 @primalpoly

        I guess it comes down to whether or not you believe government can “provide” generally. Government cannot really create anything, only redistribute.

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      5. Fallopian Tube‏ @FallopianTube23 Oct 19
        Replying to @LutzStrong @primalpoly

        Not really, they provide healthcare through redistributed money. I’m down for that.

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