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Evolutionary psych professor; wrote some books. Into the deep past & far future, esp. genes, minds, civilizations, sex, freedom, families, & Effective Altruism.

New Mexico
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    Geoffrey Miller‏Verified account @primalpoly Oct 19

    'Family values' political rhetoric doesn’t mean anything unless it cashes out into specific, evidence-based, pronatalist policies that make it easier & more affordable for young adults to have kids. https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/health/2018/10/19/us-fertility-rates-collapse-finger-pointing-blame-follow/?utm_term=.a87881ba2167&__twitter_impression=true …

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      2. Tony Coniglio  🇺🇸‏ @tonyapc42 Oct 19
        Replying to @primalpoly

        My grandmothers didn’t need evidence-based, pronatalist policies to have a combined 14 kids, maybe we should learn something from them?

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      3. Geoffrey Miller‏Verified account @primalpoly Oct 19
        Replying to @tonyapc42

        Yes we should learn from everyone who had big families, not just from policy wonks.

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      4. Tony Coniglio  🇺🇸‏ @tonyapc42 Oct 19
        Replying to @primalpoly

        The typical western government is currently doing multiple things that are antinatalist, my view is they should stop doing those things first before passing affirmative pro-Natalist policies.

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      1. Rick Haack‏ @HaackRick Oct 19
        Replying to @primalpoly

        If only there was a way to have children without sacrificing ANYTHING.

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      1. David Owen‏ @davidowen_sd Oct 19
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        Has anybody ever felt encouraged by their teachers/profs/school counselors to have kids? I recall in my primary, secondary and 8 years of tertiary ed I never was encouraged to have kids. Sweden offers the most generous benefits for parents but native-born pop still plummeting.

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      2. Hannes Malmberg‏ @HannesMalmberg1 Oct 19
        Replying to @primalpoly

        Interesting fact: pro-natalism played important role in creation of Swedish welfare state. Increasing fertility (esp for middle class) used to sell welfare services to conservatives. Argument done by Myrdals (of later ”American Dilemma” fame). https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crisis_in_the_Population_Question …

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      3. David Owen‏ @davidowen_sd Oct 19
        Replying to @HannesMalmberg1 @primalpoly

        The native born Swedish fertility rate may have increased but it is still way below replacement level. Immigrants are the ones having kids. Net decrease despite incentives

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      4. Hannes Malmberg‏ @HannesMalmberg1 Oct 19
        Replying to @davidowen_sd @primalpoly

        I know TFR has been somewhat below 2 for all, and more for natives. Would also need to check completed cohort fertility. This is remarkably stable around 2 until mid-1970s overall, despite lower TFR. Consistent with delaying of childbirth.

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      5. David Owen‏ @davidowen_sd Oct 20
        Replying to @HannesMalmberg1 @primalpoly

        Thank you for responding. My concern is the remarkable consistency is net decline in spite of overwhelming financial incentives

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      1. Just Phil‏ @JustPhilD Oct 19
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        The bathroom vending machine us out of condoms. Does that count?

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      1. Lexy Nesbitt‏ @lexynesbitt Oct 19
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        I think there was a big swing in reaction to teen pregnancies that created a drumbeat of “do NOT have babies till you’re older.” In reality, most people can swing it if they manage their expectations. No cashing out needed.

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      1. Pastor Mark  ✝‏ @PastorMark_____ Oct 19
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        Me and Jesus would like to have a kid but we keep having to put it off because we can’t afford to in this economy with tithes being so low

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      1. K-Dog‏ @Dogtheconqueror Oct 19
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        Anything that lessens the role of government interference with the family or family roles will improve the quality of the family. That doesn't cost anything.

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