The debate over immigration is often reported as dominated by two positions: open borders and closed borders. There’s just one thing: No one serious in this area has ever held either one. What does that tell us? I’m not sure. But whatever it is, it’s critically important.
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Usually those libertarians ok with open borders are also strong property rights individuals big into HOA and other contracts allowing private restrictions. Of course this usually follows the "you need to remove welfare first" counter. That's the standard back-forth I've seen
Yeah. Trouble is, it's a hell of a lot easier to open borders than to dismantle the welfare state.
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I'm truly ... on the fence ... when it comes to borders
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