Hi! A question of interest: Did you understand #nfdi (http://nfdi.dfg.de ) as an opportunity to promote research software (e.g. @FijiSc ) from project to infrastructure incl. maintanence? I often realize, that NFDI ist not enough known/understood.
Finally a funding opportunity that really understands how open-source software works and what it needs to function properly, awesome!https://twitter.com/cziscience/status/1141027713043406848 …
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I know about it, but it is limited to German consortia ... and it requires consortia, which means support for large projects. It is of course great that
#nfdi exists, but it is not really supporting individual open-source projects ... to, for example, write documentation -
Stephan, how much will you be able to do with one year of
#czi funding? If you hire new people you loose time training them. For existing people you need to take them off current funding and then switch back. It is a good initiative but it has its flaws. -
It is a niche, but an important one. E.g. It allows to really finish an open source project after its published - a wrap up postdoc year. Or you can pay somebody 25% or 50% of the salary to write documentation or do support ... while, importantly, it all looks good on the CV.
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Good point. There are probably hundreds of such projects in life sciences alone. So this will be competitive. For the big projects this is less useful because of lack of continuity. I think it would be irresponsible to hire someone on one year contract in
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Do note that it is a pilot project and they are well aware of these issues. The funding is renewable after 1y and the entire program is up for revision/improvement after unspecified time. Also note that most countries don’t have national support of any kind for open source.
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I get all that. In its current form it is useful to fund projects not people. I learned that as a responsible PI I cannot offer developers a 1-year contract without having a clear plan for sustainability of the position. Unless its a wrap up like
@preibischs mentioned.
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By 'what it needs to function properly' do you mean a more diverse community?
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Science offers (to the best of my knowledge) no direct incentives to work on improvement, refinement, integration or documentation of open-source software after it's published ... such a call can therefore make open-source software more sustainable and useful for everyone
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I agree that work on improvement, refinement, integration or documentation is valuable, but the word 'everyone' makes me think of this line and the deep flaw in the all lives matter thinking: https://www.vox.com/2016/2/25/11116366/facebook-all-lives-matter …pic.twitter.com/Y4qjs0TJPN
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